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Old 03-23-2021, 09:20 AM
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Usually toggle switches have a small circular ring that threads on to hold it in place, switch slides out the back. You can see that pretty clear in the toggle switch link pictures. Every toggle switch I have ever seen is that way. Carefully use pliers to start baking off, then fingers work well. Is there a floor dimmer switch in your car? I would've expected they did, powered when your dash switch was in the up position. The floor switches these days are pretty cheap, they fail. Sometimes an additional ground wire to them is needed. not sure about your dash, no visible screws? Mine is totally in pieces still. They might have lipped over the mount bar. hopefully you would not need to loosen and raise the body up to get it out. I would need to see what the manual says how it should've been done.
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Usually toggle switches have a small circular ring that threads on to hold it in place, switch slides out the back. You can see that pretty clear in the toggle switch link pictures. Every toggle switch I have ever seen is that way. Carefully use pliers to start baking off, then fingers work well. Is there a floor dimmer switch in your car? I would've expected they did, powered when your dash switch was in the up position. The floor switches these days are pretty cheap, they fail. Sometimes an additional ground wire to them is needed. not sure about your dash, no visible screws? Mine is totally in pieces still. They might have lipped over the mount bar. hopefully you would not need to loosen and raise the body up to get it out. I would need to see what the manual says how it should've been done.

Ill have a look. I did already get the switch ring lose I just didn't want to take it out because I dont think I can get to the back of the switch to pull it out for testing without removing the dash. Ill have to have another look and maybe get the woman to reach her smaller hands in there to pull it out and get it back in for me.

I dont think I have any dimmer switch on the floor. I dont think there are any lights (I read that one of the switches is for a "dome" light and another as an extra accessory switch. These do nothing on my car (although if I am able to get the switches out I may pull them out and figure something out for them).

Do you know how the high beams are suppose to work?

Ill try and have another look out at the car tonight after I finish work.

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Ill have a look. I did already get the switch ring lose I just didn't want to take it out because I dont think I can get to the back of the switch to pull it out for testing without removing the dash. Ill have to have another look and maybe get the woman to reach her smaller hands in there to pull it out and get it back in for me.

I dont think I have any dimmer switch on the floor. I dont think there are any lights (I read that one of the switches is for a "dome" light and another as an extra accessory switch. These do nothing on my car (although if I am able to get the switches out I may pull them out and figure something out for them).

Do you know how the high beams are suppose to work?

Ill try and have another look out at the car tonight after I finish work.

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There's no factory service manual for many of these cars. There's even quite a bit of variation in how individuals build from kits. A home built or scratch built car is even more of a wild card situation.

Figuring out how your high beams are supposed to work will probably require a continuity tester and the detective skills of Sherlock Holmes. Good luck.

p.s. Document / write down whatever you discover (e.g. which circuit goes where, which fuse it connects to, etc.) and put it in a book, binder, or computer record - it will pay off somewhere down the road.
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There's no factory service manual for many of these cars. There's even quite a bit of variation in how individuals build from kits. A home built or scratch built car is even more of a wild card situation.

Figuring out how your high beams are supposed to work will probably require a continuity tester and the detective skills of Sherlock Holmes. Good luck.

p.s. Document / write down whatever you discover (e.g. which circuit goes where, which fuse it connects to, etc.) and put it in a book, binder, or computer record - it will pay off somewhere down the road.
I will do this for sure. I was able to piece a bunch of the wiring together from the original builders manuals wiring section but it is all pieced together throughout the manual and fairly hard to tell what wire number is to be connected where (some of it is very straight forward but the switch stuff I was unable to find). I believe the kit was an original classic roadster kit and appears to be put together fairly well. It was done by a fabrication shop in Canada which I called b4 I purchased the car and the guy I spoke to (owner?) remembered doing it but did not have any of the details on it. It was completed by them in 2001.

I have already started printing specific pages from the build manual and making notes and diagrams on these as I go through it. Once I complete my hand written notes I will create either a document or wiring schematic when I get through it and have a softcopy in my email and a hardcopy with the car.

With the high beams I was more curious if it was activated by a switch or by a stalk on the car. I was thinking the three position switch may have had a spot for high beams but I think now I understand their thoughts on the switch (please confirm if I am off).

Top- headlights+parking+gauges/ect
Middle- OFF
Bottom- parking+gauages/ect

I figured it would be a bit of work to get it sorted but I am fairly ok with wiring and schematics. I just forgot about how small this area is and trying to verify things is going to be quite the process.

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