How much HP can these frames Handel?

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by Alfa02

...He told me don't worry about frame it will handle what you have, leave the limiting factor your tires (Cheaper to replace) ...

Back on the topic of the original question. I'll second that. The cars have more power than can, in way too many cases, be safely transferred to the ground.

To answer the question "How much HP can these frames Handel [sic] ?" another answer is "a lot more than you can".

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by eschaider

The sales rep at the stereo shop put me through a blindfold test in the listening room, and the best-sounding speaker pair turned out to be $2,500 cheaper! If I had not done the listening ‘adequacy test,' my wallet would have been an additional 2,500 dollars lighter.

I would fire that sales rep.

[cycleguy55]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

Back on the topic of the original question. I'll second that. The cars have more power than can, in way too many cases, be safely transferred to the ground.

To answer the question "How much HP can these frames Handel [sic] ?" another answer is "a lot more than you can".

Q: "How much HP can these frames Handel [sic]?"

A: A lot more than the tires can.

[eschaider]

Originally Posted by cycleguy55

Yeah, but just think how much quicker your Cobra would be with your wallet that much lighter.

By gosh and by golly! I never considered that important metric, Bryan. I think I may need to do some primary research on this important variation ...

[Buzz]

How much of this can you Handel?
https://youtu.be/fNqJ8mED1VE

[eschaider]

Originally Posted by patrickt

I would fire that sales rep.

As the store owner, I would also, and in a NY minute, Patrick.

As the consumer I really appreciated the obvious perspective he opened my closed eyes to. That basic adequacy value model has served me well over many decades. Not withstanding how painfully obvious it is, I find it amazing how well it is obscured in our minds once we get sucked into a specsmanship evaluation / search.

[Alfa02]

Since we're back to 'Off Topic' I would like to add a little something about the stereo systems (Home) from the 70's. As many of you know my other love is the systems that were around during the 'Wattage Wars' in the late 70's. During 90's-2000's, I met an extremely intelligent gentleman that turned out to become one of my best friends, we met though the love of racing Italian sports cars, he with a beautiful Black 67 Lanica Fulva Zagato, and I with the 66 Alfa GTV. We also had Music in common, he with Jazz, and I Rock & Roll, I soon began to appreciate another form of music because of him. Now to his story, he was a Wholesaler for Kilpsch Speakers & Pioneer systems, also a good friend of Paul Kilpsch. He sold a LOT of high-end Kilpsch speakers to wealthy customer's, made great money, so I said I need to sell my Speakerlabs (Company out of Seattle, they had made a few models that was a knock-off of Kilpsch) He said just hold on their pal, let's do a blind test. He came out to be correct buy what you think sounds best 'To You' I still have a pair of Speakerlab 7-WA Best for Rock&Roll, but for Jazz no speaker could compare to Kilpsch Hersey (Series 1) Later in life, before his passing, he gifted me his pair that Mr. Kilpsch had over saw the building of. A cherish gift, that will go to the Kilpsch museum after my passing, thank you for letting me ramble on about my pal 'Little Jack' Final thought: Buy what sounds best to you, cost should never be the deciding factor. Cheers Tom.

[sunman]

The thing about 9” carriers is some of us have a few of them around all ready and they can be changed quick.
I built a 454 then I never built a small block again.
Put a 9” in a 51 Chevy truck in 1973 it’s all I use.
This 5.0, T5, 8.8 driveline is going into a friends 66 Mustang.
I repeat let me be clear you can change carriers easy and setting one up is easy.
My cat can set up a 9” gear set.
I add twin bass rigs on home stereo. 300 watt Peavey TNT 130s with 18” Black Widow woofers. Bass you can feel, talks sweet.
Classic Roadsters horsepower handling capacity… unlimited.

[Hapnyny]

Thank you for the intel,

I agree with all of you and appreciate your rational advice. My build is focus on a trans am style racing. Handling power and braking is the balance I look to achieve in a 2500lb car. I’ve built many modern day sports cars. This is a new one for me.

[Tom Wells]

Hap,

If you haven't already, you might have a look at this thread (and others by Morris): What to do at the Race Track

Hope it helps,

Tom

[PDUB]

Originally Posted by Alfa02

Since we're back to 'Off Topic' I would like to add a little something about the stereo systems (Home) from the 70's. As many of you know my other love is the systems that were around during the 'Wattage Wars' in the late 70's. Cheers Tom.

Originally Posted by sunman

Bass you can feel, talks sweet.

These kids today with their earbuds... they have no clue as to the visceral experience of being in the music! It's not thumpin' unless your fillings are rattling! The Klipschorn and La Scala were monsters, as well, not to mention Altec, JBL, and Community Light and Sound! Not necessarily all audiophile quality, though...

[Alfa02]

Spot on Paul, it seems this gen. just wants to hear noise in the background, I've never seen anyone sit down and (just listen) to the bass thumping, without doing something else (Multitasking?) and if it rattles everything in the surrounding area so much the better It's nothing like sitting and listening to both sides of an album, and "Being one with the Music". There's a reason why Speakers have high's, med's and low's, our ears can hear all three, why you would 'Overpower' the high's & med's make no sense. Paul, I picked up a pair off ESS Amt1a (70's) a great overall speaker so far. If you have the room, nothing can touch a pair of Kilpsch K-Horns. Thanks Paul, Cheers Tom.

[Buzz]

Tom - Have you ever heard of speakers built by LaserPhase? They were a Canadian brand that made big, heavy thumpers in the late 70's and 80's. I bought a pair on a whim while visiting a friend in Toronto in the very early 80's. We were walking past the storefront and the units looked so awesome we had to go in and have a look. I can't remember the specs but they had huge dual woofers, two big midranges and two tweeters. They were about four feet tall and weighed a ton. They thumped away at my basement parties for years!

[Alfa02]

I do Buzz, they were a knock-offs from the famous Speakerlab 7WA last great speakers that Speakerlab built. Much rarer then the 7WA as they were for the Canadian market. They like the Speakerlab 7-series needs LOTS of Power to make them sing, (old watts 125 RMS min.) per channel. like mine "Speakelab-7WA." (Cira) 1976-81, mine are from 1979. First these ?? https://www.avsforum.com/threads/las...h-them.519482/ and these are 7-WA. Steve's - Speakerlab S-7-WA dynamic speaker

[PDUB]

We had some great hardware back then... Thorens, Bang and Olufsen, Crown, Phase Linear, and Nakamichi were amazing! The Marantz stuff is worth a small fortune nowadays!

[Alfa02]

Paul, it's funny you bring up Phase-Linear, we have a saying "WOW, you have those, and your house is still standing??" They had the option of catching FIRE every now & again Bob Carver changed the name to "Carver" to rid the world of Phase Linear Marantz and Pioneer had great marketing, you could walk in, and finance a whole system with "One small payment" But us Audiophile, would never do that, Best tuner, amp, turntable, speakers, etc. or the best we could afford at the time, all different brands. Between myself and 2-friends, I think we have had every "Monster Receiver" built (Anything over 100RMS watts per channel) and hands down for me were The Sansui G-series the G-8000/9000 were the best made then. I even had a G-22000, but never The HOLY GRAIL a G-33000, those, if you can every find one, will now a day set you back $10/15K , and whopping 104LBS for just a AM-FM Receiver !!!! . For components I'm a Luxman guy all the way. Had McIntosh, but Luxman To me sound better. Thanks' Paul, we could go on & on, but this is a Cobra site Cheers Tom.

[cycleguy55]

Somehow this thread has morphed from 'how much power can a frame handle' to an audiophile discussion.

At least we're not debating SCOTUS decisions. Thankfully.

[Alfa02]

Originally Posted by cycleguy55

Somehow this thread has morphed from 'how much power can a frame handle' to an audiophile discussion.

At least we're not debating SCOTUS decisions. Thankfully.

Sorry Brian, I thought you knew I was easily distracted by "Shiny Object's"

[Harpoon PV2]

Shiny, shiny, shiny! Sorry, what did you say? Cheers, Dennis

[PDUB]

Originally Posted by Alfa02

Thanks' Paul, we could go on & on, but this is a Cobra site Cheers Tom.

We've derailed the thread quite a bit! We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming...