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06-04-2008, 08:37 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Ellington,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Roadster 351W, T5, Red & White
Posts: 3,478
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The perceived or additional value of purchasing a pre-owned Cobra or documented new as a 1965/1966 Model is subject to the DMV laws in the state where the vehicle will be registered
My pre-owned CR I was legally registered and titled as a 1966 in Wisconsin. CT requires all kit cars/replicas to have the model year be the year first registered in CT and the model name is changed by the DMV to Composite, i.e, I have a 2000 Composite. CT also assigns a new DMV issued VIN and the tag is applied to the vehicle by the Anti-Theft Unit. I remember the officer was extremely careful from an appearance viewpoint in positioning the tag using a permanent adhesive.
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06-04-2008, 10:08 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Pentwater,
Mi
Cobra Make, Engine: Professional Cobra & Streetrod Builder
Posts: 5,352
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I hope SEMA wins out pretty soon! If it looks like a duck then it is a ............ All manufacturers should, if they already don't supply a 17 digit VIN number "Good in all States!"
DV
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06-04-2008, 03:00 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Ellington,
CT
Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Roadster 351W, T5, Red & White
Posts: 3,478
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DV......a group of us from CT attempted the SEMA approach in the Spring of 2007, testified at the CT General Assembly Transportation Committee hearing and also submitted written testimony. SEMA did not testify in person, but submitted their written testimony. Request did not get acted upon.
On the positive side, the CT DMV did include in their annual DMV Bill an exemption on emissions testing for all " Composites " , For us, this was a big win , allowing any engine modifications etc. Prior to the exemption, the emissions testing requirement was based upon the model year registered including Composites with specific emission standards for Composites. Peter from ERA in New Britain CT testified in person as well as submitting written testimony.
The DMV Support Department was extremely helpful in allowing a review of the summary data, no names etc., on registrations by Model and Year. A factor which contributed to the acceptance of the emissions exemption that also applies to new Composite registrations, only 330 Composites registered in the state . Considering the New England weather and limited recreational use, the impact on the environment by the Composites was insignificant.
The CT Council of Car Clubs, aka 4Cs, has a lobbyist that continues to promote and monitor legislation impacting the hobbyist, but the SEMA approach has still not been accepted
http://www.ctccc.net/
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06-04-2008, 04:11 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Pentwater,
Mi
Cobra Make, Engine: Professional Cobra & Streetrod Builder
Posts: 5,352
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Well Done Don.....we shall keep trying!
DV
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06-05-2008, 10:42 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: kalona,
IA
Cobra Make, Engine: CRII
Posts: 76
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Double Venom
Well Done Don.....we shall keep trying!
DV
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What my question was is, why did Don Scott title my CRII that I paid for on 9/14/07 same car, same vin # off by 4 numbers .title as a 1967 and capteddy
paid for a CRII on 12/15/07 and Don Scott titled it as a 1966. I live in Iowa and a friend got a factory 5 here in town last june its titled as a 1966. I dont care what the year of my car is titled, It is never going to be for sale. If the state think its worth more money they will only want more to regestered it . What my question is why the difference in years from the same company ,at the same time ,with the same kit car.
Mahalo Kawika
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06-05-2008, 11:25 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Thousand Oaks,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Roadster
Posts: 1,367
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kawika
What my question was is, why did Don Scott title my CRII that I paid for on 9/14/07 same car, same vin # off by 4 numbers .title as a 1967 and capteddy
paid for a CRII on 12/15/07 and Don Scott titled it as a 1966. I live in Iowa and a friend got a factory 5 here in town last june its titled as a 1966. I dont care what the year of my car is titled, It is never going to be for sale. If the state think its worth more money they will only want more to regestered it . What my question is why the difference in years from the same company ,at the same time ,with the same kit car.
Mahalo Kawika
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Good question maybe best answered by Don Scott himself. Doubtful though. I thought they were all 1965 replicas. Maybe other CRI and II owners can sound off on this one. I would think the difference in registration costs would be very minimal.
John
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06-05-2008, 11:26 AM
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Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Pentwater,
Mi
Cobra Make, Engine: Professional Cobra & Streetrod Builder
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Guys it is NOT titled as a "1966" anything- it is a 1966/65 Replica, then it is titled the year it is sold. I know it is confusing but almost every state is doing it their own way and they do want their taxes, ask those poor fellas in California. That is why it is so important that SEMA wins, and they are even if it is state by state. Face it SEMA and the NSRA aint no small puddle, and our Cobras don't make a drop in the "streetrods of the world! Buy a TCI frame, an Antique & Collectible '34 Ford body, rear end from SVO, transmission from David Kee, tons of parts from Lokar, Watsons, etc, and dammmnn, THEY don't call them "Kit CARS"! "They're STREET RODS! BS~!!
DV
Dammmm now you pulled my string!
Why some are listed as '66 or '65 I have no idea. Maybe a different person is typing up the CMOS?
Last edited by Double Venom; 06-05-2008 at 11:29 AM..
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06-05-2008, 02:09 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Montgomery,
TX
Cobra Make, Engine: CR 427 S/C, 351W, 5 Sp & KMP142 - 427 SO, 4 Spd
Posts: 2,212
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Mine was listed as a "66 and is titled as a '66 Ford 2DRSD-RPLC here
in Hawaii.
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06-05-2008, 02:34 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Thousand Oaks,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Roadster
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I am not the original owner of mine and have no cert. from CR. My title doesn't say 1965 anywhere. It does say 1997 though.
John
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06-05-2008, 03:33 PM
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My MSO says year 1999 shipping weight 2500 and under series or model says classic 427 kit?1966 cobra. The state of minnesota titled mine as a 1966 cobra.
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06-05-2008, 03:38 PM
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The question mark was supposed to be a back slash/. sorry about the confusion. it cost me a total of 144 dollars and it is licensed as a collector.
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