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08-31-2011, 06:55 PM
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Aluminum bodied 289 FIA
Hi guys, New here. 62 years old, retired, live in North Alabama. I'm primarily a metalshaper and have been building an aluminum bodied art deco roadster for the past several years.
The problem is that I have two sons and would like to leave each of them a scratch built car. Cobras have been a dream since I rode my bike down to the Ford dealer and sat in an early 289...until the salesman ran me off.
At any rate, I just traded for a Gentry 289 FIA body that had been stored outside. It's in solid shape but obviously needs a good bath.
I'll use the body for patterns and as an aid for putting the panels in the correct arrangement prior to welding. The body structure will be superleggera similar to what Kirkham did on the Elliston Cobra in their build manual.
Not sure what I'm going to do for a chassis. I have access to a Stage 3 chassis jig but I'm more interested in a driver not a racer.
This will be along term project. I need to finish the roadster first. Probably be doing some panel work from time to time and will update this thread as that happens.
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08-31-2011, 10:57 PM
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Welcome to the Club!
Cool aluminum roadster, nice work. What kind of running gear?
The Cobra project sounds very interesting indeed, keep us posted.
- Tim
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08-31-2011, 11:34 PM
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I could get you set up with an original style FIA frame if you'd be interested. The chassis is very accurate to the original car, basically a copy and is jig built.
If that's something you'd be interested in, let me know.
Larry
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09-01-2011, 05:28 AM
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...Cool aluminum roadster, nice work. What kind of running gear?...
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It's Corvette C4 suspension with coilovers, Heavily modified Chevy 250 6 cyl (inline)...about 275 HP, T5 tranny
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I could get you set up with an original style FIA frame if you'd be interested. ...
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Larry, you can everything I know about Cobra chassis on the head of a pin and still have room for a joint session of Congress to dance the macarena. Do you have any photos or direct me to where some are?
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09-01-2011, 07:32 AM
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Sounds like a really interesting project. Keep us posted, and please share some more pics and details of the roadster build as well.
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09-01-2011, 09:46 AM
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There are pictures in my build thread..............page 6
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09-01-2011, 11:09 AM
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Subscribing, and looking forward to see pictures of the Cobra body soon. Your art deco roadster is a work of art!
Btw you can buy plans for the original 289 frame here: 289 and Daytona Coupe ("drawings for sale" on the left)
Simon
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09-01-2011, 07:59 PM
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Impressive build Jeff. I'm familiar with Joe Stafford and Panelcraft. World class metalshapers. The superleggera structure like your doors and the Kirkham roadsters is what I will do. My roadster has a more traditional steel inner structure that was actually almost as difficult as the skin.
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09-01-2011, 08:01 PM
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...and please share some more pics and details of the roadster build as well.
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Is that permissible here? I don't want to pee in anyone's cheerios. I can post a link to the build over on the AllMetalShaping.com site.
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09-01-2011, 09:08 PM
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Sure it is we love this stuff! Welcome aboard, you do nice work. I can talk to you more about chassis' if you're interested.
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09-01-2011, 09:11 PM
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If the main thread is about the 289 build, it shouldn't be a problem to fill in the time gaps with some roadster eye candy. If it becomes a bit more in depth, you could start a new thread in the Lounge forum here, which is used for non-Cobra related discussions. Either way, please stick around and show us some more of your stuff.
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09-01-2011, 10:44 PM
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09-02-2011, 02:26 AM
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great project
note to admins; what about to move this thread to "scratch builders" sub-forum ?
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09-02-2011, 10:46 AM
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Hi Kerry,
Welcome to the madness.
Take a look at this website, you will find a great deal of information on Scatch building a frame, body, Aluminum Cobra fabrication and scope of the project you are considering.
New Page 1
Warm up the English wheel, break out the hammers and sandbags.......
Tony R.
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09-02-2011, 07:20 PM
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Thanks Tony,
I've been drinking from the fire hose here for some weeks now. Lots of info.
I also followed Chucks build for years, back when he was still in the AOL world. Truly impressive build on his coupe. Even more so because he had limited metal shaping experience.
Not knowing this site very well, should I start a new thread in the scratch build forum or document it here? It will be a scratch build....and it will be a build log???
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09-03-2011, 11:36 AM
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Hi Kerry,
As you go through the build the thread should be in the scratch build segment of CC and you will be better served with comments, input etc. from members that have the same interest.
The reason I posted Chuck's page was his Cobra replica build from an original frame and the process he went through. The coupe was built from two frames, one for the buck and another that the car actually ended up on. The build of the super leggera wire cage may be something you would want to investigate as well as a buck for your skins on the Cobra.
Chuck is an amazing craftsman with an enormous wealth of patience and focus on doing things correctly from the beginning to completion and from what I have seen so are you.
Best Regards,
Tony R.
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09-05-2011, 06:12 PM
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Hi Kerry,
You might consider just buying a tubular chassis from Sagebrush Roadsters and skinning it. I've looked at that project for a while now and it makes some sense.
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