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01-23-2004, 10:15 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: plano,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1965 origial cobra 427 assembled in 2002
Posts: 31
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Well thats the story I was told.I believed it untill I was told differently.Now I will believe you untill I am told differently.or should I just not believe anyone at all?
and just remember.
It's better to be pissed off
Than pissed on.
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01-23-2004, 10:21 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: plano,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1965 origial cobra 427 assembled in 2002
Posts: 31
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well carroll is still alive and picasso is not.
atleast I did my homework on that one!.
lol.
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01-23-2004, 10:23 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Royersford,
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR2479K, 351W yellow/black stripes
Posts: 1,604
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This sounds like a job for a fraud investigator. Anyone know one??
Steve
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01-23-2004, 10:24 AM
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Syracuse,
NY
Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary classics 3041,sbc 350(have no fear ford guys for there is a FE 428 in the garage waiting to be rebuilt & installed) but for now she is a driver while other projects take precidence.
Posts: 405
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As for Picasso...
his stuff was not worth "jack", even if it was signed, until he was dead.
Dan
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01-23-2004, 10:29 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Midland Park,
NJ
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 389 427s/o
Posts: 1,247
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Quote:
Originally posted by paul@lineback
well carroll is still alive and picasso is not.
atleast I did my homework on that one!.
lol.
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Paul,
At least you are rolling with the punches. But just check to make sure they did not freeze part of Picasso.
You will figure out what you have. If you do decide to just scrap it thought please send to me so that I may destroy it for you.
Post some pictures though -- I like to look at Cobras. Post pictures of your wife also. This group can help you with getting you out of the doghouse once we see pictures and make our assessments.
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01-23-2004, 10:30 AM
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Good come back Paul.
Who to believe? Well, if it sounds to good to be true,,,,,,,,,,,,,
I believe the Cobras that C.S. claimed were built from "parts left over" in the warehouse can NEVER be licensed in Calif. As I understand, it was part of the "deal" that was made with the DMV (and the prosecutors office?). Surprisingly they still seem to command a high price in the market.
As to a CSX4000 that "really" was built with a large number of "original" parts (whatever THAT means and HOW to prove it is another question) I guess it would sell for more than a regular CSX4000.
Ernie
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01-23-2004, 10:33 AM
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Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: Pentwater,
Mi
Cobra Make, Engine: Professional Cobra & Streetrod Builder
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And here I was just about ready to cancel my last Dramamine order
DV..I'd give you my opinion, but no one wants it anyway!
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01-23-2004, 10:38 AM
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Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: dallas,texas,
tx
Cobra Make, Engine: Lots fo different cars that change all of the time
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OKAY BACK
JUST RETURNED FROM PAUL'S PLACE AND LOOKING AT CSX4289. NICE CAR AND PAUL OS A NICE YOUNG MAN. I BELIEVE THAT PAUL SIMPLY POSTED WHAT HE WAS TOLD ABOUT THE CAR. WHILE I WAS WAITING FOR HIM TO COME DOWNSTAIRS, ANOTHER SALESMAN WALKED BY AND STATED "YEP THAT'S A REAL DEAL COBRA"(DON'T EVEN GO THERE GUYS "
CSX4289 IS GUARDSMAN BLUE WITH WIMBLEDON WHITE AND HAS A LITTLE OVER 1,200 MILES ON HER. TRUNK STILL HAS THE BLUE PLASTIC COVERING ON IT.
INTERESTING NOTE THAT ON THE DRIVER SIDE INNER FENDER WELL, THE NUMBER 4283 IS WRITTEN IN BLACK MARKER. MYBE A BODY SWAP AT SAI?
I PERSONALLY THINK THAT PAUL HAD NO FRAUD MOTIVES IN THIS BUT SHOULD HAVE DONE HIS DUE DILLIGENCE A LITTLE MORE.
HE ALSO ASKED WHAT I THOUGHT THE CAR SHOULD SELL FOR AND WE WERE CLOSE. THEY WILL SELL THE CAR FOR 127K.
ALL IN ALL A GOOD MORNING.
JAY
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01-23-2004, 10:38 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: plano,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1965 origial cobra 427 assembled in 2002
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As far as my wife gos She is an original 65
and much better looking
At this ponit I think i could get more for her than the car.
lol.
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01-23-2004, 10:42 AM
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CSX4000 series car for 127K? Gotta be a GREAT build with all the "right stuff". Sounds a bit on the high side to me.......
Ernie
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01-23-2004, 11:03 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: plano,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1965 origial cobra 427 assembled in 2002
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Thanks for your time today Jay.
I'm gonna buy you lunch sometime.
Not today though cause apparently I'm already full of crap.
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01-23-2004, 11:45 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Tucson,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 427" 351W
Posts: 562
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As for Picasso...
his stuff was not worth "jack", even if it was signed, until he was dead.
Ah, a connoisseur of fine art!
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01-23-2004, 11:45 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Dawsonville,
GA
Cobra Make, Engine: 302 done, CSX289 comp body, leaf spring chassis to original specs...
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It's over...but what a ride.
OBTW did you notice a post from Casaleenie? Coincidence?...I think not.
-John
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01-23-2004, 12:00 PM
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Life was getting kind of dull. Now here's a story right out of Michael Jackson or J Lo and that Ben whatsisname... Entertainment Tonight meets Carrol Shelby
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01-23-2004, 12:27 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: BDR 392
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TO BE OR NOT TO BE?
I saw a show on american muscle car last week about cobras they said Shelby made just over 1000 original cobras thus all others are continuation cars or replicas end of story !
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01-23-2004, 12:29 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Baton Rouge, Louisiana,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Waiting to Order a BDR, engine to be a SA C408. TKO to hook it up.
Posts: 1,259
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I'm just glad this thread didn't go as far south as it could have. I think it helped a lot that Paul could roll with the punches and keep everything in context, and not take it personally.
I'd really hate to be the guy that told Paul the story.
Thanks to Jay (again - remember the 'I won this Cobra' thread) who make the effort and took the time to see first hand what was being talked about and pass on his knowledge and experience.
Is DownTown still around the forum?
regards
Doug I
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01-23-2004, 12:32 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Northport,
NY
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham, KMP178 / '66 GT350H, 4-speed
Posts: 10,362
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Quote:
Originally posted by paul@lineback
I'm gonna buy you lunch sometime.
Not today though cause apparently I'm already full of crap.
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...you are a good sport, regardless.
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01-23-2004, 01:15 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Dublin,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: TBD
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Hello Paul,
Sorry guys been out of town and missed a lot of this thread...simply responded before I read about the visit.....Paul good luck with your efforts to sell CSX 4289.
Every Cobra that is available today with the 427 body style is a replica of the 260 +/- cobras that were built in the mid 60's equipped with the 427 FE big block engines. The 427 equipped cars carried a serial number starting with CSX3xxx the replica built by Shelby American today carries a serial number starting with CSX4xxx these new replicas from Shelby come with either a fiberglass or Aliuminum body and replicate the original cars. I own CSX4264, fibergalss body and proud of it, I have also owned a Shell Valley, Superformance and Unique replica and pround of those cars also.........the reality is I love driving these cars and seeing them in the garage pleases me.
At the end of the day.......we all indulge ourselves the way that pleases us as individuals.
The remainder of the Cobras built in the 60's were small block equipped, completely different suspesion, frame, body style and carried a serial number starting with CSX2xxx.
There have been many attempts over the years to resurrect, reconstruct, fabricate an original Cobra and that is why you seeing a great deal of skepticism in response to your posting.
I am taking the high road here and giving you the benefit of the doubt .
Best Regards,
Tony R.
Last edited by Tony Ripepi; 01-23-2004 at 01:19 PM..
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01-23-2004, 01:17 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: rocky river,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 289FIA / SA 351W / a truly glorious machine
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CASALEENIE, AKA, "THE THREAD KILLER"
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01-23-2004, 01:22 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: plano,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1965 origial cobra 427 assembled in 2002
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thx tony for the info.
I would like to retain that info but every bit of my brain has been bashed out so I'll just print it out and retain it for my (Don't post sh*t you don't know what your talking about file).
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