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01-23-2004, 01:31 PM
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Super Moderator
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Fresno,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
Posts: 14,445
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All this for a replica of an original Kirkham.
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Jamo
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01-23-2004, 01:50 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: Syracuse,
NY
Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary classics 3041,sbc 350(have no fear ford guys for there is a FE 428 in the garage waiting to be rebuilt & installed) but for now she is a driver while other projects take precidence.
Posts: 405
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Good job Paul. I think you handled the onslaught very well.
You stood by what you were told but did not take an "ATTITUDE" if you had things could have gotten real ugly. But you did not and for the most part it seemed to stay at "good natured ribbing" while we waited for more info.
I actually feel worse for the owner who obviously fell for the load of crap about original parts lying around in some old garage or whatever.
Stick around there is alot more to learn here, and who knows maybe you will decide to build one yourself. you have already shown that your skin is thick enough.
Have a good one,
Dan
P.S. Thanks Jamo, because of that last crack we may get to the
11 pages that I predicted.
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01-23-2004, 01:57 PM
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Super Moderator
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Fresno,
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
Posts: 14,445
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Avanti
I have my own thoughts about this whole affair, and the conclusions I come to are not very...let's just say Preacher Jay was the perfect person to send down there and leave it at that.
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01-23-2004, 02:00 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: God's country,
ME
Cobra Make, Engine: Original ERA 427sc, Powered by Gessford
Posts: 2,678
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Respect, Respect, Respect
I'd just like to say that I'm proud of all of you (EsPECiAlLY MRmUSTAnG ). Everyone showed a lot of restraint and gave Paul a chance to figure things out. This is not the CC I know and love What have you done with CC
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01-23-2004, 02:06 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: plano,
tx
Cobra Make, Engine: 1965 origial cobra 427 assembled in 2002
Posts: 31
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Well after much debate among myself and the guys who work here.I told them everything Jay told me and they were sticking to their story.So I had The V.P call shelby n.america.carroll shelby(who by the way we decided we better not bother)on his cell.
Than scott black.Who all just confrimed That it's an authentic shelby cobra built to 65 specs by shelby.Just not an original.
So now I've got everyone on the right page so we won't sound so ignorant when answering questions about the car.
So the next time our shelby dealer offers an original cobra it won't be untill 2006.
I'll be taking deposits on those between 6-8 mo's.
Untill then thanks for the information I should have already known but didn't!
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01-23-2004, 02:21 PM
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CC Member/Contributor
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
SC
Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
Posts: 12,702
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Paul,
As far as real world values right now with the "continuation series" Cobra, I suggest you watch the following Auction
Eye opening to say the least.
Sincerely,
Bill S.
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01-23-2004, 02:34 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: dallas,texas,
tx
Cobra Make, Engine: Lots fo different cars that change all of the time
Posts: 1,232
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OH JAMO
THATS "BISHOP" JAY TO YOU OH VENERABLE "SHEEPMEISTER"
JAY
PS. I NOMINATE PAUL FOR GOOD SPORT OF THE YEAR SO FAR. HE HAS HANDLED THIS PRETTY WELL.
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01-23-2004, 02:40 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Midland Park,
NJ
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 389 427s/o
Posts: 1,247
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Paul,
Stop changing the subject back onto that car you don't know anything about yet.
Back to the original topic. I gotta a '65 wife as well!
Pictures would still be nice.
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01-23-2004, 02:40 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: Whitehouse Station,
NJ
Cobra Make, Engine: SOLD: 2013 Boss 302 Mustang #2775 (both options). SOLD: 95 Mustang Cobra R #4 of 250 "Rosie's Diner" car. SOLD: CCX2-2505, #5 of 7 289 FIAs ever produced at Contemporary! my first Cobra: Unique 427SC w/ 428CJ moder!
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Quote:
That it's an authentic shelby cobra built to 65 specs by shelby.Just not an original.
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Well I doubt it is any more original than Steve Sunshines CSX4027, an exact replica of CSX3002 down to every nut and bolt.
So what makes this Cobra so special???
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01-23-2004, 02:44 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: plano,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1965 origial cobra 427 assembled in 2002
Posts: 31
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Pictures of my original 65 wife would require a $15.67 initial good faith deposit.Thats roughly the cost of the original corona that will get me buzzing enough to post them.
lol.
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01-23-2004, 03:11 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Ridgewood,
NJ
Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham or the Evil Empire. Do kids NEED college?
Posts: 322
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Quote:
Originally posted by mrmustang
Paul,
As far as real world values right now with the "continuation series" Cobra, I suggest you watch the following Auction
Eye opening to say the least.
Sincerely,
Bill S.
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Bill-
I was going to point out the thread on this car, but kicking someone while he's down .... . Ultimately, the market really sets the price.
pk
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01-23-2004, 03:17 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: plano,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1965 origial cobra 427 assembled in 2002
Posts: 31
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Two different cars.
I think.
Ask Jay he's seen mine.
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01-23-2004, 03:26 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Las Vegas,
NV
Cobra Make, Engine: 427 SC
Posts: 1,076
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Is that what you tell everybody Steve?
Quote:
Originally posted by John McMahon
Well I doubt it is any more original than Steve Sunshines CSX4027, an exact replica of CSX3002 down to every nut and bolt.
So what makes this Cobra so special???
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01-23-2004, 03:31 PM
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CC Member/Contributor
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Greenville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 70 Shelby convertible, ERA-289 FIA, 65 Sunbeam Tiger, mystery Ford powered 2dr convertible
Posts: 12,702
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Paul can take it, he has already shown that he fits right in with the rest of us CrAzY people
Bill S.
PS: Paul, unless yours in made out of fiberglass, you'll see what the market does indeed bear at this time by watching that auction. Don't watch the Barrett Jackson auction for these, as the last time CS had something up with his name attached to it, it was bid high, supposedly sold, then back on the showroom floor two weeks later with a for sale sign on it all over again.............
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Originally posted by pk
Bill-
I was going to point out the thread on this car, but kicking someone while he's down .... . Ultimately, the market really sets the price.
pk
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01-23-2004, 03:33 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Ridgewood,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham or the Evil Empire. Do kids NEED college?
Posts: 322
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Earl Scheib "we'll paint any car for $57,000, guaranteed!"
pk!
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01-23-2004, 03:52 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Chicago 'Burb,
Il
Cobra Make, Engine: SPF#1245 w/ 1966 427 SO
Posts: 1,167
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WOW! I posted on pg 3 lastnight and here we are on pg 10.
Paul, you seem to be a good sport. Nice job putting up with all of our comments. I can tell you're in "sales". Never "burn a bridge".
I, for one, would like to hear more about the car! I don't think we ever heard much about the engine (even after 9 pages!). Is it a 427SO with a 60's block? Std. bore / stroke? Or, does it have a Shelby alum bock?? Any HP / TQ figures? Got a parts list for us to see??? ........All these things could play a role in the price of the car.
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01-23-2004, 03:57 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio (well, Milford, really),
Posts: 320
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Hey Paul,
Check out the threads on this website concerning the new Ford Shelby Cobra. Some very talented designers, incluging someone handled "Buzz" took the design and improved it many fold. You may enjoy seeing the transformation and, now having something shaped like an original cobra on the floor, see the merit in the new design.
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01-23-2004, 04:25 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Des Moines,
IA
Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX 4780...after 19 months finally in Vegas. Now, if they can get the paint right :(
Posts: 47
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"Original" as defined by whom? I am curious as to the answer of that question, although I know it has probably been beaten into the ground like a 5 year old with a stick and a dead frog.
Can't wait to see the answer....
t.
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01-23-2004, 04:28 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Des Moines,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX 4780...after 19 months finally in Vegas. Now, if they can get the paint right :(
Posts: 47
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I'm curious...just who exactly defined "Original"?
Who exactly is the authority to say "This car is more original than that one?"
I just want that explained to me. Although I'm reasonably sure that this one has been beat into the ground like a 5 year old with a stick and a dead frog......
t.
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01-23-2004, 04:47 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: plano,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 1965 origial cobra 427 assembled in 2002
Posts: 31
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I tried to upload the pics but it said the file was to big,if any one wants to see just E-MAIL me paul@lineback.com
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