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Old 03-26-2004, 11:39 AM
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Looks like CSX4148 is back on the market. Just noticed it was listed on ebay along with another CSX alloy car.

Dan, looks like your buyer has a short attention span or is just looking to make a quick buck.

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Old 03-26-2004, 12:52 PM
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I think it's bogus.
I sent the lister this message:

To Whom This May Concern,
I just sold this car to a gentleman in New York who took delivery this past Monday. Since you have listed this vehicle with fraudulent intent, I have forwarded the listing to the ebay administration and to the regional office of the FBI for internet fraud. I have provided the agent in charge a full disclosure of all of the information including copies of the title, registration and transfer of ownership.

Have a pleasant day.
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Thanks Dan, I'm really starting to think E-BAY is the problem here. Is it THAT hard to spot a scam? Shouldn't be IF they are running their business correctly.

Key to a fraud:
24hr or 3 day listing.
Pre-approved bidders only.
VERY low price with no reserve.

These are major RED FLAGS. Why is it E-Bay can't see that?

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I alerted the new owner after I posted just in case someone is scoping out his new CSX. It will be interesting to see how quickly the ebay lister pulls the ad.
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Dammit you guys! I just emailed the "seller" to have a little fun this afternoon... you guys ruined my perfectly good time

Looks like he'll be busy...

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What a shame. eBay is a great place but I really don't think they do enough to discourage these activities. They should really do after a few of these guys and make a public statement that they will not tolorate these scams.

Pulling the listings is not enough!
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E-Bay pulled the ad all ready! Man that WAS quick!

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Well.. maybe I can still have a little fun...

I got a reply. Your basic scam.

I wrote:

Excellent! I have family in Portugal! Please let me know when I can arrange a time for them to stop by and deliver the check.


--- seller wrote:
> Hello and thank you for contacting me
> I will tell you a few words about the car..
> First of all the car is fully restored and looks
> just like in the
> pictures.It is in imaculate condition and has no
> schrach on and hasn't
> been involved in any accident.

> The motor runs very well. This is a clasic car that
> has a lot of the
> original parts and thr tires are almost new.
> The title is clear ,it is not a salvage one.

> My name is Brook Phillips, I am an avid ford fan and
> currently race dirt latemodel and sprint cars. I
> was in an accident and broke my back and am selling
> all of my race stuff.The car is now in Portugal as
> my I am at the clinic here.

> Because i can't carry all his things back home i am
> selling them.
> I am willing to sell it and shipp it to any of the
> UE countries or to
> US.I will not ship to any African,Asian or Eastern
> European countries.

> I know that the price is low but i have no use for
> the car and I want
> to get back home as soon as i sell it.

> I want to sell the car asap so I am willing to pay
> the shipping
> fees nomatter of the location.

> I require a deposit of 3,500 USD, with the balance
> when the car arrive at your shipping door.
> The total price i hope to sell this car is 10,500
> USD
> I will shipp using KLM 3-5 days, by plane to the
> nearest airport. From there a truck will bring the
> car at your door.

> The money is a reservation for the car.

> First one who makes the deposit will be the buyer.I
> need the deposit to be
> sure that you want the car and in order to proceed
> with shipping and all
> the aditional export taxes.
> I wait your further questions and i will provide any
> infos you need.
> Thank you
> Regards
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My car was on last week in the same way this one was.
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Dan:

I thought you would be interested in the ebay listing for CSX4148.

I was also thinking about having a little fun with the seller. Since he pulled the ad so soon, I quess I will have to find my fun elsewhere.

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Here was this guys reply:

Sir,
I know all tihs stuff, but i bought the car from that guy in New York....so you make it!!!!) Do you know that FBI will extracharge you for fake alarms? Go ahead and tell them again, and they can come and see the car..you are not the only one, dude
wishes!

And mine:
Really,
I just called the new owner and am awaiting his return call. Since I am personal friends with the agent in charge, I don't believe they will be overly concerned with my report especially since your ad was mysteriously pulled shortly after our correspondence. If I am in error, I will post a public apology on the appropriate cobra forums which have monitored your ad. If I am correct, then you will soon see the "errors of your way". BTW: the ad you posted was right off my listing so proprietary rights and true copy are available and have been forwarded to the appropriate authorities...dude!
I can't believe you didn't even let the dust settle before you posted the same ad. Man, you need to do some refresher classes.
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Seller wrote me back! The fun goes on...

His name has changed, and, despite my "having family in Lisbon" (where he is) who can drop off the check, he only wants me to Western Union the money and RIGHT AWAY!

I told him I had contacted my bank and the funds were ready to go as soon as "my family" got to see the car.

Wonder how long I should wait to email him again to find out if the ad had been pulled because I am the successful buyer...

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Here we go:

> sir,
> please understand me that i am in hospital now and i
> can't move. I use a handicapate chair to move
> around. I will have to find a friend or a relative
> member to come here and be with your firend to
> inspect the car.
> I will not pick up the founds, until your friend
> will inspect the car, but i need a proof that you
> are decided.
> Thank you and let me know!

Poor guy. I'm starting to feel bad about taking advantage of a guy in a "handicapate chair"

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Hey I won!

Re: YOU ARE THE BUYER!!! Congratulations!

> Hi again,
> I have earlyer closed my auction because of some
> serious buyers. They promised me
> that they will buy the car fom me, bt in the end
> they did not have the cash to pay me.
> Is this a reason for the deposit. Anyway, if you
> have the cash and you are decided
> to buy the car email me your shipping address and
> let complete the tansaction.
> Thank you and i am waiting your email asap.

Dano.. mind if I have him ship the car to you?

Seriously.. someone help me out here... we need a fitting "coup de grace"... so many places we could go with this!

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Sure, ship it back home. I received this email a few minutes ago:

Friend,
Because of your bull****s i lost 600 USD.
But you will see that you will pay more for this. I am not a tonky bonky.
See you..

Now I've been called many things in my life but never a "tonky bonky". Excuse me while I seek some professional counseling for the emotional trauma.

Formerly Dano: From now on please refer to me as "TB"
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Old 03-26-2004, 02:47 PM
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Hee hee hah hah hah hahah "Tonky bonky" oh lordy let me wipe my eyes so I can continue to see the keyboard...

Go get him Dano!

The guy's doing surprisingly well not being able to move and all... happy to see the broken back hasn't slowed him down TOO much!

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I just had to reply:

Hey Tonky Bonky,
I look forward to the challenge. My FBI friend has already red dotted you at:
Sultan James
Rua Del Flores 12
Lisabo 21541
Portugal
And I just forwarded your "threatening message" which the FBI takes rather seriously in our country. Since they will be monitoring all incoming messages, I encourage you and your tonky bonky friends to continue correspondence.
Have a most pleasant weekend.
BTW: The real owner just called and he is absolutely livid that you would post his car on ebay. Since he is quite wealthy, I'm confident that his reprisals will be significantly harsher than most.
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Hmm.. Sultan's emails have suddenly STOPPED.

Hope he's ok...

Maybe it's just the medications. Maybe his wheelchair fell down the stairs?

Poor guy.

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TB??? I don't know if it has the right ring to it, lets try:

Ban the TB's!!

Yeah, might work!

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