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08-12-2005, 09:35 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: milwaukee,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #726 427 SOHC
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vin#0F05M141477
door sticker removed during repaint
i did not paint the car, bought it as is.
Mach 1 holes for rear panel visible in trunk
looking to sell outright at $17k
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08-12-2005, 10:37 AM
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Well from Mustangs Plus, that VIN breaks down as a 1970 , built in Dearborn, Mich., Mach 1, with a 351-4V engine. Would need the door data tag to verify the color, transmission, gear ratio.
Ron
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08-12-2005, 11:08 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #726 427 SOHC
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As I stated, the door sticker is missing. Ford used a riveted plate in 1969 but a sticker in 1970. My best guess is that it was originally yellow. Rearend is probably a 3:25 open, trans is original.
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08-12-2005, 12:57 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Woodz428
If it is a Mach I, the data tag (if not deteriorated) could verify, but it is missing some of the external Mach I parts. It has no rear honeycomb panel and no apparent holes where it attached,nor correct hood/trunk striping. There is also no pic of the interior, which is exclusive to the Mach. If it is a Mach, then original engines were 302 (base) 351 2bbl( depending on where made and when, it could be either a C or W), 351 C 4bbl and 428 CJ (ram air and non),428SCJ (also ram air and non). If it is a Mach I it's value isn't relevant with the missing items. It should be looked at as a nice Custom Mustang. Value is more relative than what a beautiful Mach I (original or restored) is worth. Until a $$$ number is posted there is no way to judge what type of trade he has in mind. After 35 years of dealing in early 'stangs and parts, I would verify everything and base the value on how it turns out.
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302's were not the base in 1970 Mach 1 cars - the 351 2V was. Also in 1970, a Mach 1 could be verified by the serial number only : the third and fourth digits would be "05". No need for door data tag to verify on a 1970 Mach 1.
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1966 GT350H : 1969 428SCJ Mach 1
1970 Boss 302 : 1993 SVT Cobra
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08-12-2005, 04:43 PM
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Location: cleveland,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX4000, 427
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Regarding Mach 1's, I had thought that in 1969, all the 351's were windsor's, and in 1970, all the 351's were clevelands.
I think 1969 Mach 1's were equipped with 351W's, 390's, and 428's. In 1970, I think it was offered with either 351C's or 428's.
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08-12-2005, 04:59 PM
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Location: Freedomia,,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Coupe,Blue w/white stripes SB; Roadster, Blue w/white stripes BB w/2-4s; SPF installer/Hot Rod-Custom Car builder
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In 1970 as they were switching to the Cleveland, you could wind up with either a Windsor or Cleveland (only the 2bbl version), all 4bbls were Clevelands but the Windsor was readily mixed with the newer 2bbl Cleveland that year. If you ordered a 351 2bbl, unless you actually stated Cleveland ,it was anyones guess what you received until it arrived. It was my error on the 302, it didn't become the Mach I base engine until 1971. While the code was in the serial # of all the 1970 (and probably later ones as well) models, the data tag has much more info, much the same as the print out sheets under the seat/carpets.
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08-12-2005, 08:31 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: SMC,but witha twist!JBL chassis 1 of 2 built
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The car is NOT a mach 1 there are no brake scoops under the rear quarter windows.Stan
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08-12-2005, 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by ruslow
The car is NOT a mach 1 there are no brake scoops under the rear quarter windows.Stan
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Stan, hate to tell you but you are wrong. 1970 Mach's as with all 1970 fastbacks, and 69 boss 302's had no "fake brake" scoops. 69 mach's and fastbacks (except boss 302's) did.
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08-13-2005, 09:15 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: 427SC Unique
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