Excalibur Cobra Wanted

birdwatcher II · #1 (**permalink**) 04-05-2006, 08:21 PM

Looking for an Excalibur Cobra (JAC 427). Please post or email me... 7pitbulls@msn.com

thanks,
alex

dscott · #2 (**permalink**) 04-10-2006, 07:04 PM

Alex, do you specifically want the Excalibur? The Classic Roadsters is what Excalibur used as their model. The only difference being in the front of the door. I have 2 used Classic Roadsters Cobras for sale. We also build new ones with more interior room than the Excalibur. Let me know if I can be of any help.
Don

am9648 · #3 (**permalink**) 04-10-2006, 07:36 PM

Don,

What are you asking for the classic cobras?

Can you post some pics and discriptions?

am9648

dscott · #4 (**permalink**) 04-10-2006, 07:58 PM

This one has a stroked 427 side oiler. Dynoed at 600hp. Full race prepped and rollerized C6 auto. 4 wheel disc, 9" ford w/4:11 posi, Trigo Knock offs, Ididit tilt with Moto-lita wheel, Autometer, best of everything on this car.
$43K

dscott · #5 (**permalink**) 04-10-2006, 08:05 PM

This one is new. I helped the customer build the chassis and assembled the body. Paint cost was over $8k. It has a 360hp 351w. 5 speed trans, Ford 8.8 3:55 posi rear, VDO, tilt, heater, stereo. Very nice car and drives fantastic.
$36K
Don

am9648 · #6 (**permalink**) 04-11-2006, 05:49 AM

Don,

Thanks for the posting the pics and I might add nice looking cobras.

Hoping to find one in the mid $20K range.

am9648

birdwatcher II · #7 (**permalink**) 04-11-2006, 06:44 AM

Don,
Thank you for the info. I'm still leaning toward the Excalibur, but I would like some more pics and info on the $36k car. Can you please send it to 7pitbulls@msn.com? Does it have a top? Streetable (I just want a Sunday cruiser)? Stereo? Power steering/brakes?

thanks
alex

birdwatcher II · #8 (**permalink**) 04-12-2006, 05:47 AM

Yes, I got the message about the one currently on eBay. I talked to the dealer that has it and he's quite a bit off on the value, in. He's looking for mid to upper 40's. 16k mile car, no cats, "tall" edition with deaper floorboards and large seats. I'm thinking he's got a $25k car.

cobraduke · #9 (**permalink**) 04-13-2006, 08:43 PM

Harry is a dealer of exotics with many years experience. He is patient and will wait to find the right buyer. The last Excalibur that sold on ebay was VIN xxx075, with 6K miles. It went for $39,600. That was high; in the past several months I have seen three sell in the low to mid $30's, all real nice and low mileage. Haven't seen any sell for less than $32K. Harry probably thinks the fact that this is a documented one owner car picked up at the factory and VIN xxx177, supposedly the last regular production car delivered will push it up in the $40's. I'm not betting against Harry.
A point about the Excaliburs, they have a lot of features not usually found on kit cars, such as a VIN that allows insurance as a regular car without driving restrictions as to when, where or how much, heat and defrost, some (including xxx177) have Ford AC, tilt, real turn signals, washers and wiper controls and ignition on the steering column, sound system, integrated security system, Ford four wheel power disc brakes, quality top and side curtins and optional tonneau. The power train is straight 5.0 EFI Mustang (all but a couple of early ones) with Ford 9 inch or 8.8 solid rear axle. A few even were AOD's from the factory. In other words you can get it worked on by anybody who can work on a 5.0 Mustang and parts are pretty easy.
These characteristics appeal to some who want a cobra replica without the risk of having a custom car (insurance, reliability, serviceability) and some comforts, but it is not for those wanting the ultimate authentic 427 SC replica or a basic, no frills rocket ship. It can be a rocket ship if you are willing to do serious things to the drive train, suspension and brakes. Scott in Austin has one that races extremely well on road race courses. It ain't factory

Another thing about both the Excalibur and the Classic Roadster II (C427) I love is the extra passenger compartment room due to wider and longer stance. Still not a BMW sedan, but I fit without feeling like I'm on top of it rather than in it.
Depending on what your intended use is going to be and your preferences, it could be what you want. I have one and it fits me in every way. It's great to be able to actually drive it any time, anywhere, any weather and as much as I want. It is even comfortable (in a roadster way) on long trips (couple of hundred miles). I like being able to transfer all the 5.0 Mustang tech and hop ups to my car.
I believe there are some folks trying to start up Excalibur production again, but I do not believe these could possibly be complete cars meeting all safety, emissions and other certification for production cars as the originals were. There are some photos and posts if you search for Excalibur on this site and go to the Excalibur Owners Please Reply thread (somewhere about page 18 or so

).
There is a Classic Roadster forum on this site and you can find out more about the CR II cars there. I have to say, I pay attention to those guys as the cars really are very, very similar. Don and Pete at CR II have been a great help to me on supplying parts and information for my Excalibur. Even if I were building one for myself as a custom kit, I value the interior space and design quality of these cars so much that I would choose the C427 from CR II. You may insert the standard disclaimer here, I don't even get a discount at CR II. (Don, How'd I do?)

Anyway, best wishes on finding your dream.

Excaliber · #10 (**permalink**) 04-13-2006, 09:46 PM

Good write up Cobraduke, covers the bases well. I miss my old Excal, hard to beat for a everyday driver, reliable as Sunrise and Sunset. I loved the extra room. I doubt you will find one for sale in the 20's, mid 30's is more likely. Either way, Classic Roadster or Excal, good call.

birdwatcher II · #11 (**permalink**) 04-14-2006, 09:16 PM

I second that, great info. I

actually used to be a dealer for the Excalibur Cobras, hence my obsession to get one back. My mind is probably "polluted" based on what we paid for these things new. I'm really hoping to find an Excal with low miles, a/c and a top for mid 30's. I may have to hold out until fall, but more than willing. In the meantime, I'll re-check his post at least twice daily!

cobraduke · #12 (**permalink**) 04-25-2006, 10:31 AM

I think there is one for $37,500 in Odessa Texas, about 9K miles, AC, top, etc. as I recall. Do a goggle search for Excalibur Cobra, scroll down until you find "Replica Cars, Cars On Line", click on it then scroll down until you find it listed as Excalibur Cobra. Looks like a nice car.

Don't forget to check ebay often, I've seen five sell there over the past six months, $32K to $39K, all looked nice, low miles.

Mike

birdwatcher II · #13 (**permalink**) 05-02-2006, 03:34 PM

Mike,
Thanks for the info. I actually had already contacted the owner of the car in Odessa. It's not quite what I'm after. It's had some mods that I don't care for. I've been watching eBay like a hawk. I'm sure I'll find one worth the money soon enough. Naturally, I've got more time than money

Excaliber · #14 (**permalink**) 05-02-2006, 04:30 PM

Mu buddy here in Hawaii (bought the car from me) said he would let it go for $35K, but he's not looking for offers. IF someone offered that, he would consider it, sort of thing. 95 Excal, non A/C, great shape, about 25K miles.

...just for a reference on value.

birdwatcher II · #15 (**permalink**) 05-03-2006, 06:09 AM

Excaliber,
Thank you for the reference. Is his car red with white stripes? I think I have seen it for sale. GREAT looking car. I'd like a dark color, but would settle for silver. I was actually a dealer for these cars when they were new. We carried them from 94-97 and I might be getting one of my old customer's cars back. That would be perfect! In the meantime, the hunt continues.

thanks
alex

Excaliber · #16 (**permalink**) 05-03-2006, 06:35 AM

Red, white stripes, but never been offered for sale. I was the 2nd and 4th owner. The car was picked up from a dealer in Illinois when new and shipped to the "Big Island", Hawaii. I bought it at 8,000 miles and put many more on it. The current owner is pretty much a daily driver.

4th owner?

I sold it, missed it so much I bought it back within a couple of months and had to pay the guy I sold it to an additional $3000 to get it back! I might STILL buy it back from the current owner, just call me 'boomerang'. I love that car!

The current owner took the wheels apart, all those little bolts that hold the two peices of wheel together. He had the centers powdered coated black and all the little bolts chromed. He then had the the 'wing nut' chromed. He ran a bead of silicone around where the two halves of the wheel come together and bolted it all back up. I was in SHOCK, I thought he would ruin the wheels! They work great and LOOK FABULOUS!!!

... but lets not talk about the 'neon lights' that now grace the car in several areas. I told him, "OK, some neon lights, they look great, but if I EVER see a 'wing' or 'fart can' mufflers on it he CANNOT park by me anymore."

birdwatcher II · #17 (**permalink**) 05-07-2006, 08:32 PM

Man, you want to hear a good one? Well, I've been thinking I'd wait as long as it took to find my Excal, when out of nowhere, a 66 Corvette convertible falls in my lap. Matching #, 4 spd, 327 350hp, Factory side pipes, loaded with documentation and a GREAT deal. I pulled the trigger on it last week. Here's where the story gets good. I was in Kansas City on Friday at a car auction and there was an f'ing blue 95 Excalibur Cobra. Blue, A/C, top, 6k miles. EVERYTHING I wanted. It was a little edgy, A/C did not work, but a little TLC would have made it an amazing car. Needless to say, I'm out of money, but I still bid it up to $28k with intentions of selling it or the Vette. It sold for a few hundred over that. I'm pretty sure it will be popping up on eBay in a week or two. The guy that beat me out on the bid has been mentioned in this forum before.

I went over the car with a fine tooth comb if anyone wants my take. I'm certain it will be all over the internet for sale shortly.

So much for my patience

bigiron · #18 (**permalink**) 06-15-2006, 12:35 PM

Their are 2 for sale in the milwaukee wisconsin area. Harry Kaufmann has 1 and alice preston has the second one. Harrystoys.com and camilot motors.

Big iron

birdwatcher II · #19 (**permalink**) 06-16-2006, 11:51 AM

I know the car Harry has, he outbid me at an auciton in KC, MO. Do you know what color the one up at Camelot is?

thanks
alex

birdwatcher II · #20 (**permalink**) 06-16-2006, 11:54 AM

Ahh, nevermind on the color question on Alice's car. I'm familiar with that one too. It's actually up somewhere in Michigan or Ohio (It's been a few months since I talked to him about the car) and belongs to an AG Edwards broker. Nice guy, talked to him serveral times. It appears to be a real nice car with some slick upgrades.