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04-06-2006, 05:50 PM
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should i pay 92,500 for a shelby american with a 427?
hello all,
I am a brand new member and am thinking about paying 92,500 for a red , 427 side oiler made by shelby american. this is a continuation series car.Think they will hold that value? Thanks for any input.csx 4092.
rick scott (wadsworth ,Il.)
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04-06-2006, 06:15 PM
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That is a nice car and the number seems fair if the motor is in excellent shape. Las Vegas built Shelby American fiberglass cars have been selling in that range. Who built the motor and installed it?
Allan
http://unique-motors.ebizautos.com/d...spx?iid=351020
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04-06-2006, 06:16 PM
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Depends how important that CSX VIN number is to you.
I will tell you that if you are buying this as an investment, think again.
For $92,500 you might also think about a Kirkham with the fancy billet aluminum rear suspension.
Good luck and keep us posted.
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04-06-2006, 06:20 PM
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CB,
What is the benefit of having an aluminum suspension?
Allan
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04-06-2006, 06:24 PM
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The new Kirkham aluminum suspension is a billet piece that is CNC machined. It is supposed to be a serious improvement over the original style suspension pieces and has much less unsprung weight, which improves handling and response.
Combine that with the suspension work that Tom's Motorsports does in Las Vegas and you could have a very serious track car. For the street it may not be all that noticable.
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04-06-2006, 06:29 PM
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That's a nice car.... been "on the block" for quite a few months.
A dealer offered it for sale at 107k...no takers.
It was on eBay in February and went unsold...high bid 85K did not meet reserve.
The car was built by HRE on Long Island...top notch job
The engine is a 2x4 tunnel-port.
As Allan said...that's a fair price for a very good car.
...and they seem to hold their value...but, as this one shows, at the fair price...it takes a while to move.
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04-06-2006, 06:41 PM
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$1,000!
You could probably build the same car new, for about $91,500, and save $1,000. If you have a couple of years to wait! 
jdog
P.S. I will take delivery of CSX4795 very soon. It was ordered Nov 03! 
You do the math! 
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04-06-2006, 06:33 PM
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Three,
I have competed against a Kirkham with the latest suspension in my leaf spring buggy and I seriously doubt that it makes any difference. I would chalk it up to being cheaper to produce.
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04-06-2006, 07:05 PM
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If you're serious about wanting a Shelby continuation series, there is a red one with a 427 for sale at Grand Prix Imports in the Portland, Oregon area. I haven't checked the price yet- too rich for my blood- but it is a beautiful car. I believe the number was CSX4226.
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04-06-2006, 07:11 PM
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CSX4226 is an aluminum car... gonna be a whole lot more than 92,500 
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04-06-2006, 07:18 PM
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CSX4226 is a really nice car, the paint job was $12k. I would say the sale price is in the $135-145k. Here is a photo.
http://www.nvsaac.com/photogallery/i.../csx4226_a.jpg
The original owner was from back East, I think his last name was Furman.
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04-06-2006, 07:29 PM
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The original owner was from back East, I think his last name was Furman.
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...out of Virginia. I think car was built in OKLA.
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04-08-2006, 06:02 AM
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Csx 4226
Any idea what the paint color is of CSX 4226?
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04-08-2006, 05:21 PM
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Kirkham is a nice car. Just depends on how much value you place on owning a real Shelby cobra with a CSX number attached, and the history behind it.
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04-08-2006, 06:02 PM
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If you need a push ... You only live once , you can't take it with you !
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04-06-2006, 07:17 PM
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Yeah, you're probably right. I forgot about that even though I got down on my hands and knees to look it over really well. I was trying to get some information on my scratch build.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it! I don't think they appreciated me drooling on their car, either!  - Bob
BTW- HTH do you keep track of all this stuff????
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04-06-2006, 07:28 PM
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uhhh....by computer.
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04-06-2006, 08:21 PM
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I think the new owner is Mike Warn, past owner of Warn Industries. My understanding is he is a partner in Grand Prix Imports.
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04-07-2006, 05:13 AM
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If interested, a buddy of mine has a perfect red CSX glass car for sale, CSX4242, built by Billy Andrews at HRE.
Red, 427SO, the best of the best with 600 miles on it for $93,000. This car is perfect in every way and is currently listed in Hemmings Motor News.
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04-07-2006, 10:28 AM
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Hello Rick,
I have CSX4264 in my garage and really love the car, mine has a 427SO from Southern Automotive and 4-speed top loader. The car you are looking at looks great and it has an Aluminum 427 with a 5-speed. The 4-speed is traditional, the 5-speed is easier to live with. I think the $92,500 number is a fair price for this car IMHO
You need to drive it, get it on a rack and inspect it end to end for oil leaks, bottom damage, scrapping under the oil cooler, look inside the Wheel wells, look at the fit of the Aluminum kit etc. etc. You may even try to hook up with a mechanic you trust to check the compression ratio across the cylinders , drive shaft run out and general condition of the installation. If something is wrong inside that motor you could get it home drive a few thousand miles and then the issues that 427's are famous for could present themselves as an expensive thrill.
Here is another Aluminum Continuation Cobra at Fantasy Junction:
http://www.fantasyjunction.com/used-...e06e2e3758e205
BTW they also have a new Ford GT there for $179,500.
Tony R.
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