Nice cobra for sale on the bay

[Chris Kiley]

Originally Posted by Michael4yah

Heck Chris, thats OK, I have a Norm Crosby side that sneaks out once in a while. I try to keep him under wraps but like a good Cobra driver when he sees an opening he just goes for it.
Michael

Hey,
who is Norm Crosby?

[Excaliber]

Norm Crosby? Uh oh, here we go again...



Actually, I have no idea, he sounds "English" though.

[Michael4yah]

You remember Norm Crosby dont ya? He was the comedian that was always getting his words wrong. He also had some pretty good one liners. He was on Ed Sullivan a bunch of times. Maaan, thats gonna give away my age isnt it? Bummer

[Chris Kiley]

Originally Posted by Michael4yah

You remember Norm Crosby dont ya? He was the comedian that was always getting his words wrong. He also had some pretty good one liners. He was on Ed Sullivan a bunch of times. Maaan, thats gonna give away my age isnt it? Bummer

ok,
LOl im only 29

[Michael4yah]

Chris, In that case I wont hold your youthful inexperience against you! We're all happy that your here. We were begining to think that the next generation was too busy with their laptops to fool around with cars. I've got two sons, one 25 yr old that owns a clothing co. and a 24 yr old thats in Chiropractic school. They both had rods in H.S. The older was more of a cruiser and went with a 62 Tbird the younger was more rambunctious and he went with a blown 383 Chevelle. Both have settled down a bit to get stuff done but are planning to get back into it when they're established. I cant wait. Kids today have it harder today than we did when making money. I worked for 4X minimum wage while in H.S. but those blue collar jobs are gone. My kids ended up working at places like Mcdonalds etc. What kind of work do you do? Michael

[Chris Kiley]

Originally Posted by Michael4yah

Chris, In that case I wont hold your youthful inexperience against you! We're all happy that your here. We were begining to think that the next generation was too busy with their laptops to fool around with cars. I've got two sons, one 25 yr old that owns a clothing co. and a 24 yr old thats in Chiropractic school. They both had rods in H.S. The older was more of a cruiser and went with a 62 Tbird the younger was more rambunctious and he went with a blown 383 Chevelle. Both have settled down a bit to get stuff done but are planning to get back into it when they're established. I cant wait. Kids today have it harder today than we did when making money. I worked for 4X minimum wage while in H.S. but those blue collar jobs are gone. My kids ended up working at places like Mcdonalds etc. What kind of work do you do? Michael

ya it seems like less younger people are into cars these days. most of my friends dont even know what a cobra is? I was even a autobody instructor at a vo-tech school and the kids now a days are just plain lazy and have no respect or desire to learn how to do anything. I think its a case of them seeing monster garauge and orange county chopper, thinking its cool to watch and showing up for class dressing and talking like jessie james but in most cases they didnt even know what a socket was("Oh, is that what my mom plugs her lamp into dude?").I didnt last there long, I had to quit because the kids were just plain a$$holes.
But for the most part I worked at a few bodyshops while I was in college and started a fiberglass/canvas boat cover business when I was finishing up school. I mostly worked on boats and made ground effects and bodykits for some of the imports you see buzzing around. Now im mostly concentrating on building these cobras. I make the frames, bodies, assembly and paint all in-house.
Maybe its time to get a real job lol?

[Michael4yah]

Chris , youve got a real job! Dont let anyone tell you that you dont. As long as its legal honest work you cant beat it. Its a heck of a lot better than sitting in some office staring at a computor monitor all day. So you build Cobra frames and bodies from scratch? What style frames do you use? Do you like working with fiberglass? Theres a lot of money in it, boats, cars, even trailers. Dont ever let anyone tell you that its not good work, Good work is what puts bread on the table and makes you happy. Period.
Michael

[decooney]

Originally Posted by Chris Kiley

I would like to hear any other feedback good or bad. feel free It can only help?
Thanks,
Chris

Chris,
I'll give it a shot, and just want to help. That is a nice car you built there. You are correct, its very competitive building/selling these cars, but its not impossible. With some small changes and approach, I think you can sell it, but it depends on how far you want to take it, and if you are planning on selling these as a business. Just remember people always have something they do or don't like no matter what you build. Its nice to see you have it set up for an FE; painted, sidepipes, and all. I actually like the 17" wheels on this car, but it takes a few other changes to make it look right with lean sidewalls.

There are a few things that stand out right off the bat, but not show-stoppers. I hope you are truly looking for feedback from us. I believe some small changes can make it easier to sell. If you can afford to do it, I'd try to sell it as a running car rather than a roller on this car since you already have the motor/trans right? The idea is to get these out on the road and people driving them and showing them to others right? Nothing like a real driving reference car and happy customer for other customers to refer to.

Notables/possible adjustments:
- The rollbar kicks back too far; try to make it more verticle than it is now.
- The rear of the car sits up too high for 17" wheels/tires. Drop it, close the gap a bit more between the tire and wheel well. From the pics it looks like you have the springs adjusted extend out to the end; maybe you can lean the mount points in 1-1.5" inward for a tad more drop in the rear. I did this on a previous Jag/IRS Cobra car and it worked great. If you can keep those springs at that length, try to, but shorter springs might be required if you can drop it a tad more.
- FYI: Red interior is more popular on Cobra/street car combos and it takes the right person. Actually, it looks really nice in Red to me; don't change it now but note std. black interior removes that variable.
- Proof in the pudding is a nice driving car with all new parts like that, all sorted out. I would think selling it as a sorted out turnkey is a likely option for your first few cars.
- Retake the pictures again with the car sitting lower, after any changes.
- I would expect your first few cars to be loss-leaders, just to get them out there on the road. The best advertisement is your cars on the road.
- Expect to offer technical services/support to your customers.
- Take pictures of the frame/suspension without the body so customers can see what is underneath and what parts/bits are supplied on the car underneath.

Good Luck. Nice Job and Keep up the good work!

[atmcustomcars]

Thanks for looking