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06-08-2002, 02:10 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Northern California,
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Cobra Make, Engine: -Sold- Contemporary 427S/C # CCX-3152 1966 427 Med Rise Side Oiler, 8v 3.54:1 Salisbury IRS, Koni's.. (Now I'm riding Harleys)
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Fastco ??? Please see the photo's
I have no reason to believe they are anything other than honorable, so I ask the forum.. Has anyone here bought anything from a company called FASTCO from NY. If so was it as promised?
I ask because for a number of months I have seen posts in the parts for sale forum for 427so's and co's as well as 428 cj's.. I have asked for details and none were given and others were sketchy.. Several times. I also have a half dozen private e mails from Dr. Dee (Daryl?) and a man named Daryl in which I have expressed 100% bonified interest in core motors ($3800) and have asked for photo's and casting #'s and dates since April if this year. None have ever been sent.
Now compared to some of the horror stories from this forum this might seem silly.. But I am just wondering what other's experiences have been.
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michael
A man that is young in years, may be old in hours, if he have lost no time. But that happeneth rarely. Generally, youth is like the first cogitations, not so wise as the second. For there is a youth in thoughts, as well as in ages... Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
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06-16-2002, 01:28 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: -Sold- Contemporary 427S/C # CCX-3152 1966 427 Med Rise Side Oiler, 8v 3.54:1 Salisbury IRS, Koni's.. (Now I'm riding Harleys)
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I got photo's today of an engine I had been interested in. It was advertised as a 1968 center oiler 427.. The photo's I got were of a 66 co.. A bargain if it exists.. But my intel suggests that co's were not made in 1966..
The photo's were to have specifically included casting #'s and date codes.. None did..
Buyer Beware.
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michael
A man that is young in years, may be old in hours, if he have lost no time. But that happeneth rarely. Generally, youth is like the first cogitations, not so wise as the second. For there is a youth in thoughts, as well as in ages... Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
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06-16-2002, 04:49 PM
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I bought a 66 top oiler from fastco and am waiting for it to be delivered this week .
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06-17-2002, 06:18 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: -Sold- Contemporary 427S/C # CCX-3152 1966 427 Med Rise Side Oiler, 8v 3.54:1 Salisbury IRS, Koni's.. (Now I'm riding Harleys)
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Dale,
I am being told that the engine i was looking at is a 66 top oiler.. But had been told it was a '68 Interesting.. I have photo's if you want to compare..
The photo's I was sent clearly shows what looks like a side oiler bulge and did not show any of the markings I requested.. The heads were clearly 427 HR and I really doubt someone put those on a top oiler.. Maybe though..
I got about 10 photo's total via zip file.. Does this sound like what they promised you???
As I said maybe I'm being overly cautious. But I started wondering about this guy after he couldn't deliver specifics.. Let me know how your motor arrives.. Hopefully its better than you expect. Please post when your engine arrives and let us know.
I was also told this motor was the "last one they had".. I don't know what to think at this point.
I am going to try to post a photo of what he promised to my gallery.. Check it out.
Regards,
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A man that is young in years, may be old in hours, if he have lost no time. But that happeneth rarely. Generally, youth is like the first cogitations, not so wise as the second. For there is a youth in thoughts, as well as in ages... Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
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06-17-2002, 06:25 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: -Sold- Contemporary 427S/C # CCX-3152 1966 427 Med Rise Side Oiler, 8v 3.54:1 Salisbury IRS, Koni's.. (Now I'm riding Harleys)
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Fastco Fastone?
Here is the main photo. This was advertised as a 66 top oiler.. My info indicated top oilers were made from 63-65 and possibly again in '68... This looks like a photo of a 427 so.. Any one have an opinion??
http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/i...=2248&size=big
Regards,
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A man that is young in years, may be old in hours, if he have lost no time. But that happeneth rarely. Generally, youth is like the first cogitations, not so wise as the second. For there is a youth in thoughts, as well as in ages... Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
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06-17-2002, 07:35 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: -Sold- Contemporary 427S/C # CCX-3152 1966 427 Med Rise Side Oiler, 8v 3.54:1 Salisbury IRS, Koni's.. (Now I'm riding Harleys)
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michael
A man that is young in years, may be old in hours, if he have lost no time. But that happeneth rarely. Generally, youth is like the first cogitations, not so wise as the second. For there is a youth in thoughts, as well as in ages... Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
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06-21-2002, 06:51 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: -Sold- Contemporary 427S/C # CCX-3152 1966 427 Med Rise Side Oiler, 8v 3.54:1 Salisbury IRS, Koni's.. (Now I'm riding Harleys)
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Fastco Fastone? Fastco Fraud?
First.. Thank you... I saved almost $4300 by using the Club Cobra Forums.. Here is the rest of the story as Paul Harvey would say.
In April I saw a post for the engine(s) described in this thread. It seemed reasonable that an original unmolested top oiler in good condition would cost me a little over 4k.. So I replied to the parts for sale post..
But something didn't add up.. no pictures were to be had for the longest time.. Casting numbers were very vague or didn't make sense. Was there a top oiler made in 1966 or wasn't there.. Why would the casting date seem to indicate 1969?? They didn't do a 427 in 1969.. Or did they.. What was the R casting number about? Has anyone seen a head like that before?
The punch line.. Yes they did do a 427 in 1969.. In the past three days I have seen two of them.. They were top oilers installed in Chris Craft boats, Trojan Boats and some others.. They were "left overs" from a once proud racing effort..
Great.. Right? No.. Many are machined as to not be able to be adapted to a side oiling configuration. oh, and yes.. HALF ARE REVERSE ROTATION... And those heasd C4AE-6090-C 1964 390 heads..
Fastco.. Fastone? Fraud? You tell me.
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A man that is young in years, may be old in hours, if he have lost no time. But that happeneth rarely. Generally, youth is like the first cogitations, not so wise as the second. For there is a youth in thoughts, as well as in ages... Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
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06-21-2002, 09:03 PM
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HALF ARE REVERSE ROTATION.... This is something I don't understand, the only thing that should make it "REVERSE ROTATION" should be the cam? I'm I missing some thing?
Thanks Mike
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06-21-2002, 11:08 PM
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Glad it worked out for you.
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06-22-2002, 11:24 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: -Sold- Contemporary 427S/C # CCX-3152 1966 427 Med Rise Side Oiler, 8v 3.54:1 Salisbury IRS, Koni's.. (Now I'm riding Harleys)
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No.. the engine turns counter clockwise. This was done on twin screw boats to balance the inertia of the right (starboard) side engine's turning clockwise..
You can make any engine do this.. But to sell a 1969 427 top oiler marine unit as a 1966 conventional hipo top oiler is a lie.. I would have no problem buying the components from a 427 marine engine (only the block and heads) but at what price?.. Not $4,600.. The heads turned out to be plain jane 390 heads out of a parts bin.. $75 ea at best..
The whole thing might be worth $1,000.. and that would be fine. But Fastco is puting parts up for sale that are not what they seem..
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A man that is young in years, may be old in hours, if he have lost no time. But that happeneth rarely. Generally, youth is like the first cogitations, not so wise as the second. For there is a youth in thoughts, as well as in ages... Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
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06-22-2002, 09:25 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Genuine original Unique MotorCars 427 S/C, with a Genuine original Ford 427 Side-oiler.
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Those photos show what could be a marine or an industrial engine. I remember reading during my research that many of these were rejected automotive units, which were deemed ok for low-rpm industrial / marine use.
Also, that block was cast as a side-oiler, but the galleries were drilled as a top-oiler. The gallery plugs are missing from the rear and side of the block. I looked at one of these before I found my block.
Later,
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06-28-2002, 06:43 AM
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Beware on the reverse rotation engines!
The crank IS different. The rear area of the crank were the seal rides on has groves that will face the wrong direction when you convert it to rh rotation. It will be pushing oil out instead of keeping it in. -> Instant oil leak !
You try to diagnose and fix that one !!
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06-30-2002, 07:50 PM
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Exactly, and not to mention everything else is either backwards or incorrect and should be represented as such...
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A man that is young in years, may be old in hours, if he have lost no time. But that happeneth rarely. Generally, youth is like the first cogitations, not so wise as the second. For there is a youth in thoughts, as well as in ages... Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
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10-09-2002, 06:38 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: -Sold- Contemporary 427S/C # CCX-3152 1966 427 Med Rise Side Oiler, 8v 3.54:1 Salisbury IRS, Koni's.. (Now I'm riding Harleys)
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I am reviving this post so those who do not know about Daryl aka Dr. Dee at Fastco will know what he has been up to lately.
http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/show...threadid=20783
Regards,
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A man that is young in years, may be old in hours, if he have lost no time. But that happeneth rarely. Generally, youth is like the first cogitations, not so wise as the second. For there is a youth in thoughts, as well as in ages... Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
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10-09-2002, 06:42 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: -Sold- Contemporary 427S/C # CCX-3152 1966 427 Med Rise Side Oiler, 8v 3.54:1 Salisbury IRS, Koni's.. (Now I'm riding Harleys)
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Here is what a search of FASTCO turns up in the forums.
http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/sear...der=descending
Regards,
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michael
A man that is young in years, may be old in hours, if he have lost no time. But that happeneth rarely. Generally, youth is like the first cogitations, not so wise as the second. For there is a youth in thoughts, as well as in ages... Sir Francis Bacon (1561-1626)
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