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07-31-2007, 07:55 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Scottsdale,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Bought an Exact carbon car in TX. Bought a 427 sideoiler with 630 HP
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Scammer in Ontario
I bought (I thought) a side oiler from a guy by the name of Ron Stefanuk in Shelburne Ontario through Ebay. His email is variablesolutions@bellnet.ca. He has been jerking me around now for several months. First he had family issues and was out of touch for a couple weeks, then he was in the hospital for several weeks and that all may very well be true. When I finally got in touch with him he agreed to ship the engine the next day. I heard from him via email that it was picked up and on its way to Fort Erie for customs. He said he would send me the way bill number as soon as he got it. A week or two went by and I finally got a reply from the numerous emails I sent him. The engine was apparently dropped at the border and ruined. He said it was insured and as soon as he got a check he would wire my money to me. That was on June 18th. He still will not answer the phone or emails. I contracted a lawyer in Sherburne and a letter was sent to Ron Stefanuk with no response.
That means we are going to court in the future. He is a member of the SVTOA a ford performance club and is the Ontario chapter Tech Director.
John
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The average fighter pilot, despite the sometimes swaggering exterior, is very much capable of such feelings as love, affection, intimacy and caring. These feelings just don't involve anybody else.
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07-31-2007, 09:19 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Amarillo,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Scratch build......a little every day.
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So, things are about to get ugly...ugly. Sorry to hear these troubles as I do plenty of ebaying. Any recourse through ebay or credit card company?
Never bought anything big out of the States.
Any ClubCobra members up around them parts of Canada?
Dave
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07-31-2007, 09:28 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Scottsdale,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Bought an Exact carbon car in TX. Bought a 427 sideoiler with 630 HP
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I put a thread on the general cobra forum looking for someone to do a drive by  to see if he was in fact at his residence and to talk to him face to face.
I paid by wire transfer bank to bank. No ebay wouldn't do anything other than email the guy. Live and learn.
John
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double ugly
The average fighter pilot, despite the sometimes swaggering exterior, is very much capable of such feelings as love, affection, intimacy and caring. These feelings just don't involve anybody else.
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07-31-2007, 09:39 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Toronto, Canada,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shelby CSX 4995, Keith Craft built 427 SO
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Originally Posted by elgecko
So, things are about to get ugly...ugly. Sorry to hear these troubles as I do plenty of ebaying. Any recourse through ebay or credit card company?
Never bought anything big out of the States.
Any ClubCobra members up around them parts of Canada?
Dave
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Hi, Shelbourne is about an hours drive from where I live. Got an address? 
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"The 427 Cobra is easily the highest performance car ever sold for street use. A decent 427 - not the worst, not the best, will go from zero to 100 mph and back down again to zero in less than 14 seconds. All thing considered, you can put together a pretty good argument that the 427 Cobra is the ultimate performance car, judged on any basis you want to name." Taken from; Corvette, The Sensuous American 
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07-31-2007, 09:47 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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PM sent
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double ugly
The average fighter pilot, despite the sometimes swaggering exterior, is very much capable of such feelings as love, affection, intimacy and caring. These feelings just don't involve anybody else.
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07-31-2007, 10:13 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Got it, just answered.
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"The 427 Cobra is easily the highest performance car ever sold for street use. A decent 427 - not the worst, not the best, will go from zero to 100 mph and back down again to zero in less than 14 seconds. All thing considered, you can put together a pretty good argument that the 427 Cobra is the ultimate performance car, judged on any basis you want to name." Taken from; Corvette, The Sensuous American
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07-31-2007, 10:26 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Ex CSX3327, & AK7113 AutoKraft AC MK IV
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Canadian courts
You are about to learn the difference between lawyers and barristers if the system is still the same as when I was in Canadian courts in 1999/2000. The lesson will be expensive. See if there is a system simular to mediation where a judge presides,but it is not court.
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07-31-2007, 10:28 AM
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427SnakeSC another PM sent.
John
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double ugly
The average fighter pilot, despite the sometimes swaggering exterior, is very much capable of such feelings as love, affection, intimacy and caring. These feelings just don't involve anybody else.
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07-31-2007, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by JBo
You are about to learn the difference between lawyers and barristers if the system is still the same as when I was in Canadian courts in 1999/2000. The lesson will be expensive. See if there is a system simular to mediation where a judge presides,but it is not court.
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I talked to a Barrister and he said he can get a judgement in small claims court. The max is 10K. He did talk cost but didn't scare me. He mentioned about a $1,000.00 plus.
John
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double ugly
The average fighter pilot, despite the sometimes swaggering exterior, is very much capable of such feelings as love, affection, intimacy and caring. These feelings just don't involve anybody else.
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07-31-2007, 11:01 AM
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Member of the north
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John, I am sorry to hear of this mess.
PLease keep us informed as to what transpires.
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07-31-2007, 11:10 AM
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Will do.
John
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double ugly
The average fighter pilot, despite the sometimes swaggering exterior, is very much capable of such feelings as love, affection, intimacy and caring. These feelings just don't involve anybody else.
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07-31-2007, 11:46 AM
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Definately do small claims court, but be aware a judgement does not mean you get the money unless he has it or the court has a mechanism for getting it.
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07-31-2007, 11:50 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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He owns property. That was the basis for proceeding. He has my money and the insurance money.
John
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double ugly
The average fighter pilot, despite the sometimes swaggering exterior, is very much capable of such feelings as love, affection, intimacy and caring. These feelings just don't involve anybody else.
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07-31-2007, 02:00 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Yorba Linda,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF w/392CI stroker
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Is this the same guy?
http://www.svtoa-toronto.ca/clubproject/index.html
Just doing some simple Google searches on the name and I'm getting hits that look like a car guy from Eastern Canada....
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07-31-2007, 02:02 PM
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Here's another good one that has PHONE NUMBERS of people he associates with.
http://www.svtoa-toronto.ca/download...e-07summer.pdf
Use all of your resources!
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07-31-2007, 02:11 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Phoenix,
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR: 302 w/aluminum heads, Edlebrock injection. Street car trim, no scoop, side pipes or rollbar.
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Man John, sorry to hear this.
All that 'sick family member' and 'I've been in the hospital' stuff is classic scam-talk. For that matter so is the dropped and ruined engine. I know of a guitar builder that told people he was in a car accident and had 7 new guitars destroyed. That plus his own hospital stay, his wife's (for another reason) and his father dying bought him months of good will from a long list of customers that had sent him money. All of it pure horse $#it of course.
Dirtbags!
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07-31-2007, 02:18 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
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Been there. I have pictures of him hosting a BBQ at his residence on July 14.
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double ugly
The average fighter pilot, despite the sometimes swaggering exterior, is very much capable of such feelings as love, affection, intimacy and caring. These feelings just don't involve anybody else.
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07-31-2007, 02:23 PM
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Man John, sorry to hear this.
All that 'sick family member' and 'I've been in the hospital' stuff is classic scam-talk. For that matter so is the dropped and ruined engine. I know of a guitar builder that told people he was in a car accident and had 7 new guitars destroyed. That plus his own hospital stay, his wife's (for another reason) and his father dying bought him months of good will from a long list of customers that had sent him money. All of it pure horse $#it of course.
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I go to bed at 10 PM and get up at 2 AM. I can't sleep. It's more than just the money. I've never been robbed/scammed before. I'm just a dumb Norwegian that grew up in North Dakota.
John
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double ugly
The average fighter pilot, despite the sometimes swaggering exterior, is very much capable of such feelings as love, affection, intimacy and caring. These feelings just don't involve anybody else.
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07-31-2007, 02:24 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Yorba Linda,
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I'd call some of those numbers on that second link and simply introduce yourself, apologize for the intrusion and that you are doing a business deal with Mr. "x" and you must contact him either by alternative phone or address. Maybe you get a personal address that way. Sometimes you have to cast a lot of lines before you hook a fish.
Worse thing that happens is that you embarrass this slime ball in front of all his "friends." A good friend of mine just got scammed on some vintage baseball cards from someone in the same area about 30 days ago....to the tune of $6,500.
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07-31-2007, 02:44 PM
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Location: Scotts Valley,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 289 FIA #2108
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From gallery on www.svtoa-toronto.ca
Pictures of a guy named "Ron" from svtoa: Was it one of these guys?
[IMG]C:\Data\My Pictures\one of these guys.jpg[/IMG]
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