Cobra Completion Fundraiser for 767Jockey

[767Jockey]

Originally Posted by FFR428

Doug what iron heads would you be looking for? I come across some iron ones here and there and could pass the info along to you. This week there was a nice set of bare iron CJ heads on FE.com for $400 or $450. Needless to say they sold pretty fast.

FFR,
Thanks for the heads up. I'm looking for early two bolt per exhaust port, with standard exhaust port placement in relation to the header bolts. I have a great pair of heads now, a set of D2TE-AA's. They're perfect, small chamber, great shape, completely assembled and ready to go. The problem is they're late heads, and the exhaust port is not in a standard placement in relation to the exhaust header bolts. The port is either raised or lowered significantly in relation to the standard header mounting bolt placement, I forget which. The problem becomes that the header is designed to seal around the port, but the port is raised or lowered, so the sealing bead on the headers ends up IN the port rather than AROUND the port, and the header won't seal.

I have two issues with iron heads I've seen so far. Most need a rebuild, which is costly, and also because they're so heavy, the shipping is costly too. All in all, that's fine. However, soon you start encroaching on Edelbrock territory in cost. For example, lets say a guy has a set of decent heads that need a rebuild and he wants $400. That's a perfectly fair price. I have to ship them to a machine shop to be built. That's probably at least $100. Then I have to buy valves and rebuild the heads. That may be $500 - $600 or more. Now I have to get them from the machine shop to Ed's place - perhaps another $100 in shipping. All told, that's about $1200, give or take. Price of a new set of Edelbrocks is about in that neighborhood. Because of all that I'm looking for a set of heads that are complete and ready to go so I only need to ship them once, direct to Ed's place and also not have to go through the expense of the overhaul. One day a set will pop up, I still have time to continue looking so far. If you see anything please give me a ping. Thanks!

Doug

[767Jockey]

Guys,
Son of a gun, look what I just found on EBay. Looks to be just what I was looking for. Can anyone speak for or against the C6AE-R heads for what I'm looking to do? Is the exhaust port in the right location on this model head? Thanks!

Doug
Ford FE Cylinder Heads C6AE-R 390 427 428 Ready-to-Run | eBay
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[FFR428]

Doug those heads have the right location and port size your looking for. Same as early lowriser. That said be aware they are not a matched set. One is a big R cast at the Cleveland foundry (CF) and the other small R cast at the Dearborn foundry (DIF). There are some small differences but nothing major I'm aware of. Ad also states he's not sure what valve springs are in them or max lift. That would need to be checked against the cam your using to be sure they are compatable. Other than that they look like a nice set of heads.

BTW there's a usede set of Edels on FE.com. Looks like the rocker stand bolt holes need new helicoils but you might be able to deal with him a bit. He's had them for sale a while with no bites. If I see anything else I'll let you know.

[FFR428]

ahhh nevemind on those Edels. I forgot whoever replaced the rocker helicoils went thru the tops of the ports and they were plugged with putty. Could be a can of worms.

[767Jockey]

Yeah, I saw the putty job. I wasn't comfortable with that. I'd like to come under that price with some iron heads if possible, and save the extra money to get the car done and actually drive it!

[CoolCarl]

Jockey, how are you feeling these days?

Last I saw you were hurting from all the chemo. Is that over and are you feeling better yet? I sure hope so.

[RICK LAKE]

767 Jockey Remove the puddy and have larger timeserts installed in the heads. Very easy to do. As long as a sealer is installed on them vacuum or exhaust will not leak out. My shelby heads have this done to them when a broke the 1st rocker shaft at Gateway. Have to watch the oiling hole to the heads and I grooved the ARP studs to the rocker stands.
Call the guy and ask about any other head work done to these heads?? Milling, cracks, when the valve job was done, how many hours are on these heads, you know check out questions.
Send them to my house I will do the work and send them to Ed.
If you get them for a good price, buy them. Have a good holiday Rick

[767Jockey]

Originally Posted by CoolCarl

Jockey, how are you feeling these days?

Last I saw you were hurting from all the chemo. Is that over and are you feeling better yet? I sure hope so.

I'm doing OK, Carl - thanks. It's a long road back, I'm on the two steps forward, one step back plan, it would seem. It takes time but I'm patient. Short term I'll probably be OK; long term, who knows. I tend to take things one day at a time now, I don't do a whole lot of future planning. Each day is sort of a gift, as corny and trite as that sounds. The car, this whole initiative that the guys here have done, in fact this whole website was a Godsend to keep me distracted and interested in something while the whole mess of treatment was underway.

If and when the car is finally built it's going to be very exciting to watch while I continue the climb back to normal, whatever normal turns out to be. Odds are there will likely be more treatment and issues down the road so the car will be something to keep me distracted from the day to day issues with that, so again I'm so thankful for that. Thanks for asking, and to ALL of you, once again thanks so very much.

[767Jockey]

Originally Posted by RICK LAKE

767 Jockey Remove the puddy and have larger timeserts installed in the heads. Very easy to do. As long as a sealer is installed on them vacuum or exhaust will not leak out. My shelby heads have this done to them when a broke the 1st rocker shaft at Gateway. Have to watch the oiling hole to the heads and I grooved the ARP studs to the rocker stands.
Call the guy and ask about any other head work done to these heads?? Milling, cracks, when the valve job was done, how many hours are on these heads, you know check out questions.
Send them to my house I will do the work and send them to Ed.
If you get them for a good price, buy them. Have a good holiday Rick

Hey, Rick!!
How are you, amigo? I owe you a call, we haven't spoken in a long time. I saw those Edelbrock heads, they're in the FE.com classifieds. Of course with the Jurassic software used over there the ad is probably buried on page 3 by now, but they're still there. The guy has them priced at $1250. All in all that's not a bad price for a set of ported Edelbrock's, in fact it's a good price. It's just more than I want to spend now since I have so many more things to buy for the car. All the guys here have been saying to just get it running and upgrade to cool stuff later if I'm able, and that sounds like a wise plan to me. I just want to drive this thing one day - hopefully I make it that long!!!

The heads that I posted above seem to be just what I'm looking for. Of course, what they're going for now has no bearing on what they'll actually sell for, as with eBay it seems things can double or triple in price in the last 15 seconds of bidding. I'm not sure what I should make my high bid on them, any ideas? They seem like nice heads. My sister lives about 20 minutes from the guy, I can always ask her son to run over there to pick them up for me and save the shipping if it's OK with the seller. One day when work starts on the car I want to get up to Ed's place to poke around, I was planning on seeing my sister in the Detroit burbs when I did that. I'll just go to her place first and borrow her car to drive to Ed's and take the heads with me. I guess I can always have her drop them at a shop in the Detroit area to have them checked over and make sure they're OK before I use them. There has to be a few decent shops to do that in the Detroit area. I have valve springs for them already, I remember that Russ sent a set that match the cam I'll be using in the 390, so I can have the shop mount the springs. I don't imagine that this would be a real costly job to do. What do you (and all you guys) think? Talk to you soon, Rick. I hope all is well with you.

[FFR428]

Doug did you win the auction for those heads?

[767Jockey]

No, I messed up my bid somehow. Don't ask what I did wrong, I have no idea. I was trying to go $400, they ended up less than that. I don't know what I did wrong.

[FFR428]

Bummer. That was a good price for those. I was hoping you got them.

[Rodster]

Hey Doug, how's the getting-back-to-par process coming along?

I'm a newbie inspired by your story and by the Club Cobra members who've stepped up to lend an assist. Hope all's going better by you, and that your build is giving you some happy distraction.

[Double Venom]

I had another long and rather disturbing phone call from Doug this afternoon. As if this guy doesn’t have enough problems, his Cobra wont be finished until early Spring of 2012. (For your information Doug has run into another snag in his recovery, he will be spending the next few (?) weeks in the hospital due to some complications from the radiation treatments.)

Apparently I have waited far to long to post something about “767Jockey’s” car.
For those that don’t know, I DO have the car, hundreds of donated parts to Dougs car, still in their original shipping boxes. His car has sat in my garage covered up since it arrived here. There are two reasons for this; Doug is still trying to get very expensive parts for his motor, transmission, E-brake etc.

His car IS painted and approximately 1/3rd assembled. With Doug’s understanding, knowing I am now working alone, his car has to come after I finish the Paying Customers cars that were in front of his. He understands completely. [edit]

I’m sure IF Doug would have spent his donated funds foolishly or haphazardly I would have most of the parts to actually get started to head for the finish line!

For THOSE that do NOT know, Doug does not have control of the donated monies! His wish right from the beginning was that a Third party take control of the funds so NO ONE would assume any improprieties on either the donated parts or the monies.

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If ANYONE has questions about Doug’s Cobra, other than personal ones, please feel free to write me: DV4477@Gmail.com, Ed Combs-4905 Wayne Rd., Pentwater, Mi. 49449, or simply call me-7 days a week @ 231-869-4608.

We ARE Family and We WILL take care of our own!
Ed-DV-Combs

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[86Sebring]

Originally Posted by Double Venom

For those that don’t know, I DO have the car, hundreds of donated parts to Dougs car, still in their original shipping boxes. His car has sat in my garage covered up since it arrived here. There are two reasons for this; Doug is still trying to get very expensive parts for his motor, transmission, E-brake etc.


I’m sure IF Doug would have spent his donated funds foolishly or haphazardly I would have most of the parts to actually get started to head for the finish line!

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thanks for the update, I have been following the original tread with great anticipation
Is it possible to get a list of what parts are still needed? Perhaps with the help of the forum members it would be possible to locate necessary items quicker? Last I read there was a search for Edelbrock heads, there are almost always a couple of sets on Epay. Probably also need a set of Erson rocker arms, better valve springs etc
Is there need for more donations? If so it should be posted. Even in this pathetic crappy economy, it should be possible to get enough funds to finally finish Dougs car
hang in there Doug

[Grubby]

Post pictures along with the list of parts you still need. I would love to see the cars progress.

John

[BBQCYCLEWERKES]

I have spoken to Doug and offered to send him a set of cast iron 390 heads for him to use. I have approx 10 sets of heads and I'll look to see which heads are the best in terms of performance and verify with my friends widow to verify I can donate them to this cause. They will most likely need valves, springs and guides, but will be rebuildable. I know I have 2 sets of 352 hipo heads, a few sets of 390 hipo and PI heads and who knows what else. I will advise soon on what I have and can have donated to this cause.

[Jamo]

No need to start a new thread when a sticky's been up for such an extended period.

Ed...PM me with your concerns.

[Double Venom]

86 Sebring,
I need to take a little heat on this myself. I know most of you want to help Doug. Get his parts or donate to the fund to get his car finished. Personally, I have had my own "minor" medical conditions haunt me, Spring weather was a nightmare, making any progress in the shop slow and tedious. I hope to have less than a week to go to get all caught up with my priority type work.

Mr Mustang sent a new camera to me to replace mine that crapped out months ago! As mentioned, Doug's parts are in my shop still in their original shipping boxes! I have / had three other Cobras under construction, one Blown-Pro-Street '40 Willy's, and for you Chevy guys over 20,000 lbs of antique chevy muscle parts that are in my shop! . Everything from 409's, 454's, 427's, 396's and muscle 350 4 bolt's. Everything from the 60's to early 70's! My daughter asked me to help out her Mother N Law to sell her Husbands parts for her. (Most parts are now sold!)

Anyway, my shop is only 40x42. To say floor space is at a minimum, I think you can see spreading out Doug's "Dozens" of boxes with all the motors, thousands of parts, and cars under construction would be a total inventory nightmare!

So hang in there for just (hopefully) a few more days and I will post pictures of Doug's parts and pieces.

DV

[Rodster]

Thanks for those updates, DV.

Keep motoring, Doug. You have my prayers and best wishes.