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12-27-2003, 06:00 PM
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Transmission identity crisis
Hi everyone! i'm a newbie here,was recomended by a member,Thanks Greg!!,hopefully someone can help me out with a dilema i have on figuring out what a transmission is.i've tried a few other forums and heard everything as to what this is...but all speculation as to what it is....even tried lots of transmission id sites...no luck...finally tried the dealer....they just laughed at me...anyways i have what appears to be a toploader transmission..has the eight bellhousing mounting holes..top cover comes off etc..the numbers are unlike what anyone has ever heard of...here is the tag...RAT-E1 035551 ...on the tail housing i have RF-C5FR-7A040-A and on the other side of the casing i believe the numbers are C8AR 7006 i'll post some more pics very shortly....any help GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!!!..Ps,looks like a great site,!!tonnes if info,will take me a bit to navigate it all....Thanks in advance.......Scotty
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12-27-2003, 06:05 PM
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12-27-2003, 06:15 PM
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Scott that is a small spline ford top loader 4spd give you a 100.00 for it. just kidding,From the shape it looks like you should take it to trans shop to get inspected before it gets used.
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12-27-2003, 06:20 PM
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Thanks Bobby,will definetly go to the transmission shop first....everything seems to move smoothly and all the gears appear to be ok...no chips etc...guess it sat for a while...any idea what it comes out of?? nobody seems to know about the RAT E1...its got everyone puzzled to say the least...lol Thanks for the reply....Scotty
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12-27-2003, 06:42 PM
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Man, that just looks plain weird...look at where 1st gear should be ...it's not there....it looks like you're seeing all of the inner synchro hub, and the reverse gear on the synchro...but 1st gear is gone...
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12-27-2003, 07:18 PM
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i'll get another one for the inner gears in a moment...it is puzzling though..lol....Thanks again....Scotty
 and yet it seems to have the linkages of the four speed???
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12-27-2003, 07:34 PM
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Hey Scott....grab a wrench and move the 1st gear synchro the 2nd gear position....I'd like to see what it looks like...that first gear is killing me...
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12-27-2003, 07:35 PM
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It actually looks like someone has assembled it without the 1st gear cog itself...that's why the reverse gear on the outer synchro hub is so far to the back...and you can see all the splines on the inner hub. First gear is just completely gone....I can't figure out what the tag on the case means though...it doesn't make sense at all.
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12-27-2003, 07:36 PM
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will do,give me about 10 minutes,i'm on it...Thanks
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12-27-2003, 07:44 PM
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One other thing I noticed...how many shifter cams does it have? A normal Toploader will have 3...I only see 2 on the picture above....I may be blind though.
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12-27-2003, 07:47 PM
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12-27-2003, 07:53 PM
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Looks like someone left 1st gear out of it...if it is indeed a 4 speed tranny....all the other gears look the same though.
Oh, one other thing I noticed....the 1st/2nd gear synchro shifter ring is backwards....the shifter fork should be on the other side of the reverse gear...
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12-27-2003, 07:56 PM
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Well...if it's a 4 speed, there's parts missing, and other parts backwards. If it's a 3-speed, then it looks like 1st gear and reverse are on the same synchronizer...which wouldn't make sense. Plus the lack of another shifter cam throws a wrench into it. Basically, I don't know what it is....You need to get David Kee involved in this. 
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12-27-2003, 07:58 PM
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its a ford 3 spd toploader......the same trans ford sold pontiac in mid to late 60's used in lemans & gto.. front housing was cast to mount to GM bellhousing .. pontaic called their toploader a DEARBORN
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12-27-2003, 08:00 PM
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no problem....don't worry it has everybody confused...to say the least...lol ...Theres just so many discrepincies with it, that well...who knows...been trying to find out for a good month now....Thanks again sincerely appreciate the thoughts and ideas....Scotty
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hehehe....at least someone (not me) knows what they're talking about...I knew it didn't look like a 4-speed....I should get some points for that....hehehe.... |
12-27-2003, 08:03 PM
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Wow,Thanks Ron!! Ford put trans in GM products?? now i'm really confused...lol so will this fit a GM or a Ford or both?....Thanks as well Ron.....This site is great!!!!!
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12-27-2003, 08:13 PM
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the ford @ pontaic version wont interchange,, the pontaic trans has GM ears cast in. the internal parts will interchange
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Thanks Ron and to Everyone else who helped me out!!!!! This site is great.!!!and fast!!...to bad i now, have a useless transmission though...lol, at least to me anyways....oh well.....Scotty
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12-30-2003, 08:45 PM
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i hope plugs are ok for this site? as i couldn't have found out about this transmission withought everyones help on this and am genuinely appreciative!!..so i put a plug in my auction to this website for thanks and recognition to you all...Seeing as how the transmission is useless to me\us other than to a Gm person i put it up on Ebay...hopefully to just get a few bucks back and hopefully you all get some new traffic because its a great site...Thanks again....Scotty
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