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03-24-2010, 07:35 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Lonestar LS 427, Keith Craft 501,Toploader
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I would double check on that T/O bearing, I mean...$99.00? That sounds pretty cheap. Just remember, if anything goes wrong, you got to pull the trans everytime to repair it. I've got a McCleod H/T/B and it's been working great for years because it's my only option. Are you sure you can't install an EXTERNAL slave to operate your clutch?
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03-24-2010, 10:40 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Butler Cobra. 350 Chevy Engine, blueprinted, heads cc'd, ported, polished, manifolds matched, big valves, 1.6 roller rockers, TB Injected, mild cam, MSD crank trigger electronic ignition. TKO-600 transmission. XKE Jaguar rear. IFS by Fast Cars
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Originally Posted by Tim Brewer
I would double check on that T/O bearing, I mean...$99.00? That sounds pretty cheap. Just remember, if anything goes wrong, you got to pull the trans everytime to repair it. I've got a McCleod H/T/B and it's been working great for years because it's my only option. Are you sure you can't install an EXTERNAL slave to operate your clutch?
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Tim I love the look of your cobra. The color is great! Is it a custom color?
And don't forget the $0.99 cents! I'm trusting that by now HTOB technology is no longer a Black Science. And that this manufacturer has made a good one.
I may eat these words in the future and then perhaps that would be a good time to install a new 5 speed. I'll let you know here on this thread. And if all is well, it may become a very old thread.
Did you look at the link to the product?
Thanks for your response.
Arthur
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03-24-2010, 11:13 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 289 FIA #2027, 65' 289" PS wheels
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Lal,
Looks like you just posted a few minutes ago...
OK, as I remember...I used ~.20" between the fully retracted ram, and the tips of the clutch diaphragm fingers before bleeding. Used a carpenter's square and straight edge to make sure.
When I was at the McLeod shop, the tech said it could be set up with as much as 0.25" clearance, even though the directions sheet said "minimum of 0.1, max .125" before bleeding the unit.
Ask around, maybe the Chevy service manual covers the setup for the truck unit in more detail...who knows if something is different...find out sooner than later.
I agree the Chevy type part at $99 is not necessarily a quality related issue. A stock Chevy truck service/replacement part may have had a few hundred thousand+? made...doubt the aftermarket race-car guys sell more than a few hundreds of each model they stock, so handling cost and markup are probably the big factors in higher prices for special fit hot-rod stuff.
Do test the thing if you can. Pulling clutches gets real old in a hurry.
Pete
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02-09-2012, 10:04 PM
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I've pondered the same question but it appears to hang by the hoses only. Does seem like sloppy engineering but I've had no problems.
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02-10-2012, 05:27 AM
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medistat - You do realize that the most recent post before yours was over two years old, and some of the others are five years old, don't you?
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02-10-2012, 10:59 AM
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old thread...is that a problem...?
Seems to me old threads can be a resource. A new thread has no information in it at all...the old thread may have something that is still relevant to the problem and all the history won't have to be rediscovered.
Would you go to a library and tell the librarian "what up with all these OLD BOOKS...?...I want NEW books, why there is NOTHING to learn from the history...that's OLD NEWS...I want some fresh news".
Old threads may not get much response since few will be watching the thread closely, but it gets bumped to the top and if there is anything new to add, it may show up.
In the meantime, McLeod still makes hyd t/o's so someone my be running into the same problems.
Pete
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02-11-2012, 12:24 AM
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Pete, I concur and well said.
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02-11-2012, 05:38 AM
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I was not objecting to the revival of old threads. I was just noting that as medistat had been a forum member less than a month, and his comment was little more than "me too," he may not have noticed how old the thread was. ... Frankly, I'm pleased that he/she used the search function to find information that interested him/her.
BTW, I too got tired of pulling the transmission and shed the McLeod TOB that was in my car when i bought it (i.e., me too).
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02-11-2012, 06:58 AM
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My only objection to resurrecting old posts is when the now new poster ask a different question than what started the old thread. In this case, I think it is relevant and Pete makes good points.
Back on point, I don't know why anyone would run a hydraulic TO bearing when an external slave is so much better. They are not adjustable as the clutch wears, are prone to overextension (particularly when we "garage engineers" set them up with different components), when they leak it ruins your day, they are difficult to bleed once installed, and I'm sure I can think up more reasons. The bottom line, for our cars an external slave is the only way to go.
If you are running one and have experience with both an external slave and internal TO, then by all means debate me and I will respect your perspective. This should be good.
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02-11-2012, 10:40 AM
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I have ran both and the hydraulic TO bearing is the better choice for me, the frame to bell housing is 3" so when I tried the slave I only had about 1" arm sticking out, with it being that short I didn't get enough throw.
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