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06-20-2004, 12:36 PM
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Racing Fuel
I am looking for gas stations that have racing fuel. Any of you Columbus locals know of any locations? 110 octane preferably. Are there any close to the hotels?
Ross
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06-20-2004, 01:20 PM
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Ross, are you sure you can not get away with using 100 octane at Union 76? I have run this for years with no problem. In the 110 to 120 range I was burning off the tips on the plugs.
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06-20-2004, 07:38 PM
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I ran 11.9 at 121 mph with 92 octane today. Not bad for cheap gas!
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06-21-2004, 04:20 AM
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Historicmustang,
I can probably use 100 octane. That would be better than the usual 93 octane.
I am still looking for locations in the Columbus area (close to the hotels) that carry racing fuel.
Ross
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06-21-2004, 06:15 AM
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Ross,
The Certified station in Marysville(30-40 minutes from the 'Fling hotels) has CAM2 for $3.85 gal. Been this price for years, even as regular gas prices are all over the place. Obviously, they do a good business, so it's always fresh.
If you want more info, directions, etc..., just let me know.
~Dave
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06-21-2004, 06:46 AM
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Dave,
Thanks for the info, but I would like to find something closer to the hotels as my car only gets 6-7 mpg. The price you quoted is about right for racing fuel. At least it hasn't gone up like regular pump gas.
Ross
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06-21-2004, 07:32 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR2229K, Vortech-blown 306 (446rwhp, 442 rwtq)
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I'm curious...what are the specs on your engine? I'm a little surprised that a 560HP 460 *needs* race fuel. There's no real benefit to running it if your engine doesn't need it.
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06-21-2004, 07:33 AM
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Unless I am at the track I take my 15 gallon bbl to one of our local small airports and fill up with 102 octane leaded aircraft fuel. Cost is about $2.42 gallon. Same stuff you pay $3.75 for at the speed shops. You must take a container because it is illegal for you to introduce leaded fuel from the pump into a street vehicle.
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06-21-2004, 08:12 AM
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Wade,
The compression of my engine is 11:1. It will run on pump gas, but not very well.
Ross
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06-21-2004, 08:22 AM
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Clois,
I heard a compelling explanation a while back about why Avgas is a bad idea in an auto engine....something significantly different about the blend. But, since old age is beginning to set in, I can't remember the actual details.
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06-21-2004, 08:35 AM
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because avgas has to meet tests for different atmospheric conditions, actually burns slower than auto gas. All the tests I've ever seen, show hp loss using avgas.
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06-21-2004, 09:19 AM
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Jack,
Makes sense, because those GA piston engines are pretty low compression.
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06-21-2004, 11:30 AM
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I need the lead in the avgas to prevent detonization so what I do is mix roughly 50/50 blend w/ either 93 or 95 octane that I can buy at the pump. I guess one could mix their own leaded ethyl gas at home with a little peroxide. I think that thread has passed through here once before.
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06-21-2004, 01:25 PM
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Lead doesn't prevent detonation, lead was used as a lubricate. The old valve seats weren't as hard as the ones for unleaded fuel. The octane number is your guide to preventing detonation or pre-ignition.
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06-21-2004, 03:16 PM
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Ross - hope all is well with you....
You know we have the same motors....I had asked John Vermerish about fuel the last time I had my car to his shop....he said I was wasting money on anything above 94 octane as our motors did not require it. He went on to say it might even run better with 94 or 92/93 mixed with 100.
While I like the smell and color in the pipes of Turbo Blue and alike, I've been burining 93/94 octane for over a year and she runs fine.
Just my 2 cents.
Have fun.
Jeff - 186
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06-21-2004, 03:33 PM
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Jeff,
I tried just running 93 octane and it runs very rough, backfires coughs, all kinds of s**t. I found that it runs best when I mix racing fuel and pump gas 50/50 or straight racing fuel.
Ross
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