Heater Hose on a 427

[Excaliber]

My dual quad Hi Rise intake does NOT have a water outlet port for a heater hose. Nor does it have the typical heat cross over ports for carb warmup.

Of course I can put one hose directly on the water pump, which has a port. But what to do with the OTHER hose???

I just ordered the heater box, soft top and side curtains from ERA. Get's cold, compared to Hawaii, here in Oregon.

[FWB]

heater hose ? do you mean bypass hose?
heater hoses come off the water pump

[FWB]

oh the return line!!!!! there should be two ports. one is right above the t-stat housing the other on the same face as the t-stat housing on the right. if they are missing you can drill and tap the manifold

[FWB]

correction 3 ports the one behind the dist hole goes to the water jacket too

[Excaliber]

Perhaps there is a third port? I do seem to recall having to deal with some kind of plug at or behind the distributor? The water port directly behind the thermostat is used by the water temp sensor, which I don't really want to mess with. That port would normally be the supply of hot water to the heater box inlet. The water pump outlet is a no brainer of course and is the return of hot water port.

NOT the bypass hose, I don't think that would work out well at all for a heater application and could cause trouble in general for the pump or whatever.

[patrickt]

So, Ernie are you saying that you do not have both of the fitting holes you see here?

[Woodz428]

Originally Posted by FWB

oh the return line!!!!! there should be two ports. one is right above the t-stat housing the other on the same face as the t-stat housing on the right. if they are missing you can drill and tap the manifold

Actually the waterpump line is the return line, the manifold one is the feed. That way the temp gets to the heater before the thermostat opens.

[FWB]

Originally Posted by Woodz428

Actually the waterpump line is the return line, the manifold one is the feed. That way the temp gets to the heater before the thermostat opens.

ok, i'll buy that.....i use the one behind the dist for my sensor. and the one on top of the t-stat area for the heater hose.
i would drill and tap the manifold on top of the t-stat if its de-void of a port.
it is a 3/8-18 NPT. and stick a 90 degree nipple in there.......and yes i said nipple...... see pic toward bottom, the port....

[Rick Parker]

I believe the ports on the waterpump are the RETURN, hot water is forced out of the manifold (from the heads) and back to the LOW side of the waterpump, through the heater core if there is one. Right?

[Excaliber]

Rick, I think that is right, hot water from the motor, not from/after the radiator. It APPEARS that I have a second port beside, behind or nearly under the distributor, mostly it's covered up by the front carb. Gonna be real tight getting a fitting in there. I might move my temp sensor to that hole and use the temp sensor hole to the intake side of the heater, through the heater valve first of course.

I suspect heater hose fittings were not a big priority when Ford designed the Hi Rise intake.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

Rick, I think that is right, hot water from the motor, not from/after the radiator. It APPEARS that I have a second port beside, behind or nearly under the distributor, mostly it's covered up by the front carb. Gonna be real tight getting a fitting in there. I might move my temp sensor to that hole and use the temp sensor hole to the intake side of the heater, through the heater valve first of course.

I suspect heater hose fittings were not a big priority when Ford designed the Hi Rise intake.

Any chance you could post a nice photo of what it is you're dealing with?

[Woodz428]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

Rick, I think that is right, hot water from the motor, not from/after the radiator. It APPEARS that I have a second port beside, behind or nearly under the distributor, mostly it's covered up by the front carb. Gonna be real tight getting a fitting in there. I might move my temp sensor to that hole and use the temp sensor hole to the intake side of the heater, through the heater valve first of course.

I suspect heater hose fittings were not a big priority when Ford designed the Hi Rise intake.

Not sure of how much room you have Ernie, but there are 90* fittings that may serve your purpose.

[Excaliber]

Busy as a stump full of ants at the moment, pic will have to wait.

71 degrees out today, rode both the bikes, took the Cobra for a spin, just stopped in for a bite to eat and hit the road again. I'm burning day light...

[Excaliber]

Had a bite to eat and the couch grabbed me by the ankles and threw a half nelson on me. So I staggered to the garage to take this fuzzy picture of what must be a "water port", I hope.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Excaliber

Had a bite to eat and the couch grabbed me by the ankles and threw a half nelson on me. So I staggered to the garage to take this fuzzy picture of what must be a "water port", I hope.

That's where I have my temp fitting. See my shot above.

[Excaliber]

Oh yeah, I see it now! OK, thats the plan, move the temp sensor to the new hole and use the current temp sensor hole for the heater fitting.

Peter STRONGLY urged me against buying the side curtains, but I insisted. I had them on my Excalibur and was glad to have them available a number of times. They are funky, but their OK when it's raining like heck, even if they do leak. Besides with them there is "hope" the heater might actually work to some degree.

[Rick Parker]

Turn on the air conditioner Ernie!

[DonC]

Excaliber:
What part of Oregon are you in?
DonC

[Excaliber]

Medford, the weather has been wonderful here lately and "not bad" even through the winter, a pleasant surprise. BUT, being Oregon, you never know when the rain will come without let up.

[DonC]

I'll try to get you a name and contact information for a local who's pretty active in that area.
DonC