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Old 04-08-2014, 09:04 PM
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Thanks, guys. My current car is in the same power-to-weight league as a 400HP Cobra, but it's riding on grippy 285mm rear tires. The reassurance that a slabside is manageable with a small-block and period-correct rubber is just what I was looking for. Lots of great pictures and beautiful cars, BTW.

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I like the lean & mean look of a 289 FIA model....having said that, I have a 427 body (not ERA) in street trim with bumpers and side exhausts. It was too good a deal to pass up. Am I happy? Sure am...I'll own a 289 model someday and for now the 427 is a great toy. Mine is a daily driver that gets left in a mall parking lot during the day. Every now and then I turn the key and the windshield wipers start and I know somebody has been messing with the toggle switches, but other than that the general public has been very respectful.

Don't worry that you'll feel shorted on attention, no matter which choice you make. You generally don't have to worry about daddy who is just in awe at the idea of driving one of these, you have to worry about his 2 year old with the ice cream because Daddy's attention is on the Cobra...it's that way everywhere you go. I think the 427 model would garner more attention with the general public, but among cobraphiles and other assorted car nuts the 289 will probably be the attention hog just because there ARE so many 427's.

Take driving lessons...they can be very quick to switch ends, and particularly the 427 models in water, what with their wider rear tires and all that low end torque of the FE.

The older I get the more I like the idea of a slabside with wire wheels

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Bill,

Lots of great advice here and you can’t go wrong no matter which one you choose.

For me, I have always gravitated towards the 289 cars. From the slab side street cars, to the comp cars to the FIAs. The 289 with it’s balance of handling & performance with those classic lines is a Cobra to me. When I started my ERA FIA project, the ERA slab side was not yet available, so I did a ’street’ version of an FIA.

It’s interesting that about 70% of the 60’s originals were 289 cars, yet the vast majority of the continuation / replica / tribute Cobras are 427s. It’s probably the lust for more power that tips the scale towards the 427s and they are indeed very impressive.

Like the guys said, you need to decide for yourself, but either way you are in good company. Welcome to the club and best of luck with your project!

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To make the decision harder may I remind you that AC in England sold the 427 narrow hip body with a 289/302 Windsor motor. Those cars had wire wheels and were built for domestic (UK) and export like Germany or Australia.
Maybe that would be the way to go.......
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To make the decision harder may I remind you that AC in England sold the 427 narrow hip body with a 289/302 Windsor motor. Those cars had wire wheels and were built for domestic (UK) and export like Germany or Australia.
Maybe that would be the way to go.......
That has always been an interesting combination to me...the 427 body style with wire wheels. I had no idea they were offered from the AC factory in that trim.

I sure would like to see photos...not a big fan of the wide body rear fenders on my replica, they seem to stick out too far and look like they were a last-minute addition that just didn't pan out like somebody had hoped.

Since I do not track my car or use it on the drag-strip (yet) I don't necessarily need a 12" wide tire on the rear end...although most people say they really like that look, I would prefer a bit narrower body style and tire width. My car hydroplanes at the least little touch on the throttle if the streets are wet at all...a narrower tire (like would be on a 289 street model) might well reduce that tendency somewhat.

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A narrow hip ERA 427 Street Roadster is always another option.

The making of a 427 Narrow Hip Cobra starts now!!
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My 427 ERA is nimble, easy to drive, comfortable on long trips and quiet enough to talk to the passenger.

My wife and I take the Cobra on long trips all the time. This will be our 4th Hot Rod Power Tour. She even drives sometimes. At 70mph we can have a normal conversation. If it rains I put the top on.

I have a 428 stroker with 500 hp that delivers 18+mpg on the highway and is not fussy about the heat.

Pick the car that excites you. I dreamed of a 427 for 30 years.

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Old 04-09-2014, 11:49 AM
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The solution should be clear (certainly it was to Murky Waters and to me); get both...

...and it was the only way to have peace in the house; my wife wants to drive, not ride.


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If I could have another...
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Oh, you mean like this?




(One is an ERA and the other CSX3252)

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Yes,Jim. YES!!!
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Happy Spring Jim. Hope you survived the winter and we both know that if our good wives are happy, then we are happy. Besides that, I can't hear her over my sidepipes. Spring cruise? Hope to see you soon
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Some do like the wide hip street roadster look. 428Street is another one. There's something for everyone.
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But they are all attractive, in their own way.
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Wow, I hadn't really appreciated the narrow-hip 427 before - but the photos on this thread and in the Colin Comer book really show its appeal. Looks like a pretty major project to derive one from an ERA, but as metal-morphous's photos show, it's doable.
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Both ERA cars are very desirable options. If the chosen body style is 289 FIA or more particularly, 289 roadster, an observer would be more likely to assume the car is a '60s car and not a replica, if that's what you're after (and most of us are chasing some degree of authenticity).
If wire wheels and comparatively skinny tyres are still an issue for you, 'kidney bean' wheels are available.
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Wow, I hadn't really appreciated the narrow-hip 427 before - but the photos on this thread and in the Colin Comer book really show its appeal. Looks like a pretty major project to derive one from an ERA, but as metal-morphous's photos show, it's doable.
Just throw some narrow wheels on, hide the exhaust & X the roll bar. Sounds easy coming from my mouth....
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Yes - but Metal-morphous is planning to cast molds of the fenders from the one they are building now. That makes it a lot more attractive option for someone is isn't afraid of some fiberglass work - but might be a little put off by major fiberglass surgery. I've replaced a quarter panel on a Corvette before but I wasn't ready to tackle building new fenders from scratch on my car. It's an option.
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