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04-14-2014, 06:01 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Little Rock area,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA Street Roadster #782 with 459 cu in FE KC engine, toploader, 3.31
Posts: 4,519
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Originally Posted by LMH
Wow Dan, that is absolutely beautiful!
Larry
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Thanks
I guess to un-hijack the OP's question, I think you will have to decide yourself what attributes you are most interested in replicating. The 289 looks light, fast, agile, English-sporty and is the model that has the successful racing heritage. You won't run into another one nearly as often. The 427 is more commonly recognized, American-muscle, more bruitish in appearance and typically performance with a big inch motor, but by the time it appeared it had been eclipsed by newer and better performing platforms in competition. A tough decision but either way you can't go far wrong.
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04-14-2014, 10:33 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Los Gatos,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #3014; 331 CID SBF
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OP here -
DanEC, you've nailed it. If both cars (the slabside 289 and the 427 street roadster) weren't so gorgeous (in different ways), it would be easier to choose. And I saw tkb289's street FIA in the flesh on Sunday, and that's beautiful too!
I figured that ruling out the 427SC look would be the momentous decision - but it still leaves several other great options on the table...
Bill
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04-16-2014, 12:41 PM
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Join Date: Apr 1999
Location: Waco, TX,
TX
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #766, FE V8, Toploader
Posts: 257
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I've always liked the original 260/289s, but they never did for me what the street 427 does (especially the grille opening with the bumper guards, oval grille protector, and grill splitter). I also never liked the old AC suspension system (transverse leaf springs front and rear) that the original 260/289 Cobras used. Although not an issue on ERA's 289 replicas, there have been replicas made with the original leaf-spring suspension. I find myself doubting that ERA's replica would have the same appeal with the older suspension design, but I could be wrong. Of course, Corvettes use a similar system with "fiberglas" leaf springs, but I digress.
Either way, both the 260/289 and the 427 ERA replicas are fine automobiles.
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04-16-2014, 07:07 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: Portland,
OR
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA, 1964 289->Webers
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Beauty of a street car!
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ERA FIA 2088
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04-17-2014, 04:32 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: York Co. Maine USA,
ME
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 427 S/C W/Holmon Moody Original Nascar build #508 Iron Block/heads (C5AE-H) Bal/Blu 427 Sideoiler; 780 Holley Dbl. Pump; 4 Speed Top Loader; AP Racing Bks; IRS; 15" Trigo pins
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The only real answer is to have one of each, a slabside & a 427! Problem sloved!!
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04-17-2014, 04:38 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: York Co. Maine USA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 427 S/C W/Holmon Moody Original Nascar build #508 Iron Block/heads (C5AE-H) Bal/Blu 427 Sideoiler; 780 Holley Dbl. Pump; 4 Speed Top Loader; AP Racing Bks; IRS; 15" Trigo pins
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The only real answer is to have one of each, a slabside & a 427! Problem sloved!!
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06-20-2016, 03:33 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Los Gatos,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #3014; 331 CID SBF
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OP here - apologies for reviving the necrothread but I've gotten to a comfortable place on the decision, and the verdict is -- slabside!
Deposit is in and the wait has begun. Rough build plan:
- bonded-body option, to be painted before delivery
- full street look: undercar exhaust, wires, no rollbar, grille, etc.
- SBF, probably 331CID with modern heads and intake
- considering buying a shortblock from one of the usual suppliers and completing engine assembly myself
- probably TKO transmission
Now we'll see how much of the kit lead time I can spend re-reading the assembly manual and making spreadsheets
- Bill
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06-20-2016, 03:46 PM
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Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: White Plains,,
NY
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA140, ERA 267, ERA GT2038, ERA FIA 2045, ERAGT2077 ERA2893000EXP
Posts: 1,117
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Bill:
My wife and I very much enjoy our ERA289 and I know you will also. We did, however, resolve the quandary of which to get (and help insure domestic tranquility) by acquiring an ERAFIA as well...
Jim
PS: Discuss the rear gear ratio and TKO 5th gear ratio with Doug and Peter at ERA
Last edited by Jim Holden; 06-20-2016 at 03:49 PM..
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06-21-2016, 08:56 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Los Gatos,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #3014; 331 CID SBF
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Wow, very handsome cars, Jim! Thanks for the tip on gearing as well - I've started looking at these calcs and internalizing the advice in the manual, but I'll definitely supplement that with a real conversation with the ERA guys.
B
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06-22-2016, 11:08 AM
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Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: White Plains,,
NY
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA140, ERA 267, ERA GT2038, ERA FIA 2045, ERAGT2077 ERA2893000EXP
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Bill:
The FIA has a 3:31 rear and 5th is .82. The 289 has a 3.77 rear and 5th is .64.
I prefer the TKO with the .82 as the step from 1.00 to .64 in the 289 is much greater and definitely drops the revs down... very much an "overdrive" sensation.
Two decidedly different driving experiences; the FIA strong motor, wider stickier tires and more progressive gear box. The 289 is mellow with an under car exhaust, narrower tires (and larger steering wheel that makes the car easier to drive for my wife) and with heater, top and side curtains, more of a three season car.
Jim
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06-23-2016, 09:52 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA 'Street' Build
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Bill,
Congrats on making a deposit on an ERA Slab side! Doug and Peter along with owners like Jim can certainly provide you guidance. Peter's basic advice is not to stray too far from the original recipe, so to speak, and ERA has been at this a very long time.
For my FIA 'street' car, they recommended the 3.54 rear ratio with the TKO 600 & 0.82 OD. It works well with the 302 (306) motor putting out 365 HP and I am very happy with it. There are a lot of factors to consider, but doing the research and figuring things out is half the fun!
- Tim
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10-07-2016, 06:06 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Hardwick,
VT
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA Slabside BRG 289
Posts: 302
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Bill,
Several months have gone by. How are things with your Slabside going?
I truly enjoy my 289 which I have had for over two years. Peter and Doug are outstanding in their work.
John
ERA #3010 289 Slabside BRG
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12-31-2016, 08:53 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2013
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #3014; 331 CID SBF
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Quote:
Originally Posted by desgros@vtlink.
Bill,
Several months have gone by. How are things with your Slabside going?
I truly enjoy my 289 which I have had for over two years. Peter and Doug are outstanding in their work.
John
ERA #3010 289 Slabside BRG
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Hi, John - sorry for the late reply. I hadn't been bugging the guys during the early part of the lead time, but will definitely check in now that 2017 is here. I've got family in CT, just 40min from New Britain; so I'll probably make a combined trip in Q1.
Bill
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12-31-2016, 03:28 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Manchester,
NH
Cobra Make, Engine: AK1085 (302 Street), HTM111 (427 Comp), CSX2375R (289 Comp) and COB5999 (427 S/C)
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Post pics when available.
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01-01-2017, 03:17 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Hardwick,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA Slabside BRG 289
Posts: 302
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Bill,
Outstanding!
Happy New Year,
John
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