Advertised as an ERA, but is it?

sea2jet · #1 (**permalink**) 11-11-2016, 04:01 AM

AC Cobra with real 427 Side Oiler

Supercobra · #2 (**permalink**) 11-11-2016, 04:12 AM

ERA with a 9 inch Ford solid axle? I don't think so.

mrmustang · #3 (**permalink**) 11-11-2016, 04:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Supercobra

ERA with a 9 inch Ford solid axle? I don't think so.

Not an ERA

1795 · #4 (**permalink**) 11-11-2016, 05:05 AM

Absolutely not an ERA. Thought for a second that maybe the owner bought an ERA frame and then built from there, but it does not look like an ERA frame either from what I can see.

Mark IV · #5 (**permalink**) 11-11-2016, 05:22 AM

"Muncie Rock-Crusher" gearing in a "Top Loader"..?!?!?!

Methinks he is posting "tags" to get views.

The rear suspension is Fox Mustang with the upper horizontal shocks used on SVO and some of the Mustang GTs so that narrows the frame options.

Thor maine · #6 (**permalink**) 11-11-2016, 05:30 AM

Looks like a LA Exotics

ACHiPo · #7 (**permalink**) 11-11-2016, 06:36 AM

One more vote for "no"

Bill D · #8 (**permalink**) 11-11-2016, 07:11 AM

Not even close to an ERA

66gtk · #9 (**permalink**) 11-11-2016, 07:18 AM

If ERA stands for Embarrassing Ripoff Artist I think you have a winner.

DanEC · #10 (**permalink**) 11-11-2016, 09:54 AM

That's bizarre.

awfink55 · #11 (**permalink**) 11-12-2016, 05:57 AM

Gentlemen,
After reviewing the Ad, I have a tendency to think the seller is referring to the engine only as an era (time period, from the 1960's) engine and not the complete car, which is definitely not an ERA. Just My Two Cents............

sea2jet · #12 (**permalink**) 11-12-2016, 06:23 AM

Sellers response to an email I sent them.
His comment about the ERA square tube frame/body seems to be the issue, considering that an original from that era has a round tube frame. I'm sure the seller has no ill intention, just worded the ad incorrectly.

The body is a Classic Configuration from Finish Line, Inc / Moto-Lita USA in
Miramar Florida
Everything on the car is top quality the owner passed away is the only
reason is for sale there is 931 miles on it since completion
Warren Lubow
Home
425-246-5222

DanEC · #13 (**permalink**) 11-12-2016, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by awfink55

Gentlemen,
After reviewing the Ad, I have a tendency to think the seller is referring to the engine only as an era (time period, from the 1960's) engine and not the complete car, which is definitely not an ERA. Just My Two Cents............

I tried to read it that way originally but couldn't. Seems to be referring to ERA cars to me.

BassPlayah · #14 (**permalink**) 12-21-2016, 03:07 AM

Newbie here. I live in Seattle and have had interest in this car for a couple months now. Thought it was an ERA car, per the ad, and literally just talked to Peter at ERA today about the car. He said "definitely not one of ours."

However, with more than $100K in receipts and full documentation, and 913 miles on the ODO, I admit I'm having a hard time passing because the ad isn't technically correct. Warren, the consignor, is a decent enough fellow, has a good rep in town, and I think it's just an honest mistake from a guy who is trying to help out a friend and may not be a Cobra expert like many of you are. And since many of you are true experts, I would ask -- what's wrong with this car, in your opinion? Is this a $55K car? If you think $55k is too high, then what do you think this car is roughly worth?

I have been shopping off and on for six months for an ERA car, which is why I thought I hit the jackpot when this car hit CL. However, I knew something was amiss when the ad has renewed for months now because the car hasn't sold. But maybe it's a heckuva car for $35K? $43k? I'll take any feedback on the car y'all care to offer.

*** FYI, One of the reasons I have yet to get serious about an offer is because I'm just over six feet tall, and my knees hit the steering wheel: haven't been able to test drive myself. Warren thinks a smaller radius steering wheel and cutting/bending the pedals or pedal throw would be all that's needed, but I'm still nervous about having to modify the car to be able to drive it. And that's probably a sign that it's not the right car for me. But maybe a little customization is no big deal, or shouldn't be a deal killer? I am likely to go look at it again, and go through ALL the receipts, but wanted to have as much info from this group as I can prior to visiting again... if, that is, you guys think it's a car worth looking into further. The owner is pretty firm on the price, and this may all be for not. But with this group's feedback, maybe I can make a legit case for why the car should be sold for something significantly less. Thanks in advance for any help you can provide, and since I don't want to buy a problem car, or a car that would be tough to sell someday, I welcome negative comments. I also welcome any leads anyone has for a true ERA 427 car that could be purchased for below $50K. I have budgeted $40-45K, and don't mind if it takes me a year or two to find the right car at the right price.

mrmustang · #15 (**permalink**) 12-21-2016, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BassPlayah

However, with more than $100K in receipts and full documentation, and 913 miles on the ODO, I admit I'm having a hard time passing because the ad isn't technically correct.

While there may be 100K in receipts, looking at the car itself, I do not see more than 30-40K of real time investment, so the other 60K must be labor, and even that has me wondering if the receipts are not doctored.

There are much better cars out there for the money, and being sold without the hype of this one. If I was looking for another (after 30+ 427SC bodys, I am searching for a slabside or maybe another FIA at the moment), I'd pass on this one and keep searching.

Bill S.

1795 · #16 (**permalink**) 12-21-2016, 04:50 AM

There are ERA's out there that with a few more miles that can be bought in your price range. Keep looking. Do not start talking yourself into a bad deal. If you are going to be spending that kind of money, have no regrets after you get the car home.

DanEC · #17 (**permalink**) 12-21-2016, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 1795

There are ERA's out there that with a few more miles that can be bought in your price range. Keep looking. Do not start talking yourself into a bad deal. If you are going to be spending that kind of money, have no regrets after you get the car home.

Right - $55,000 would have bought a number of used ERAs in recent years that I guarantee are far superior in quality to a car that can't even be identified as to manufacturer. Some have even gone for a bit under $50k although they are probably pretty far and in-between. Being a little over 6 ft. tall is not a problem with an ERA. I'm a hair over 6'2" and fit fine, although I have my seat bolted flat to the floor. I could still move the seat back further if I wanted. We have at least one frequent ERA poster here who from memory is 6'4" and fits fine.

kevins2 · #18 (**permalink**) 12-21-2016, 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by BassPlayah

... or a car that would be tough to sell someday....

I think you answered this question for yourself with your comment about how long the car has been for sale. It certainly is different, which will mean a smaller pool of prospective buyers.

As for your height, there are a number of threads on this forum regarding that topic that should give you some guidance. So, I agree with the others that you should pass on this and keep looking. You didn't say why you've singled out wanting an ERA but, if your reasons are similar to most, you wouldn't be happy with that car in the long run, in my opinion.

Good luck and keep searching...

Kevin

Three Peaks · #19 (**permalink**) 12-21-2016, 07:47 AM

Bassplayah,
Another alternative is to buy the Contemporary advertised in the classifieds and mentioned in several threads and have someone finish it up if you aren't up to doing it yourself and you'll still end up under your budget and have a great car with solid resale down the road if that is your goal.

Bob

patrickt · #20 (**permalink**) 12-21-2016, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DanEC

We have at least one frequent ERA poster here who from memory is 6'4" and fits fine.

Yep, and 12EEE feet to boot <clever pun>. If you had to retrofit an ERA fitted to a short man with girlie feet, the hardest part would be spacing the pedals. The second hardest part would be removing any "extra padding" from under the seats (that might be easier than I think). Other than that, it's pretty straight forward. A few little tweaks and your head will be right where you want it. You then carefully hard mount everything, shim and tilt the 15" Moto Lita, just right. And *poof* the car fits you like a glove. One added benefit is that if your short friends ever ask to drive your car you can politely respond "Oh, gosh, you know I would love you to try this baby out, but, unfortunately, everything is shimmed and hard mounted to fit me perfectly, so you wouldn't even be able to reach the pedals. Sorry."