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Old 05-24-2020, 07:38 PM
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A small project assembling an FE expansion tank to keep me busy while I wait.

I purchased the unassembled kit and spent a few hours putting it together.

It needs pressure tested and painted. I need to pick up a valve stem to fab up a pressure test fixture.

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Nice work. Anything special you soldered it together with?

I see a wheel in the background of the first photo that If I’m not mistaken, looks like a 19” Brembo wheel/package on a 11 or 12 Mustang GT. I had a 12 With the Brembo package that I traded in on a Shelby GT but I still miss that car.
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I modified my tank for my KC 482. I was plagued with solder leaks afterwards. I disassembled the whole tank, cleaned all the soft solder off , fluxed and re-soldered it with 15% silver solder. 10+ years later not one leak.
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I used 40% tin and 60% lead acid core and lots of flux. The solder flowed nicely and filled all the empty spaces. I pulled on the brackets pretty hard and they are solid.

Yes the car in the background is a 2012 Brembo car. It is currently my daily driver.

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Default Modifying Galaxy/T-Bird tank

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I modified my tank for my KC 482. I was plagued with solder leaks afterwards. I disassembled the whole tank, cleaned all the soft solder off , fluxed and re-soldered it with 15% silver solder. 10+ years later not one leak.
Undy, what specific tank did you modify and how difficult was it? I am contemplating modifying a T-Bird tank to have the outlet on the left. Is it difficult to desolder and can it be done with a normal propane torch?
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I used 40% tin and 60% lead acid core and lots of flux. The solder flowed nicely and filled all the empty spaces. I pulled on the brackets pretty hard and they are solid.

Yes the car in the background is a 2012 Brembo car. It is currently my daily driver.

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Acid core solder is not intended to be used on electronics. Rosin core or solid core with rosin flux (preferred) is for electronics.
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Tony, Grubby is not soldering electronics.
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Tony, Grubby is not soldering electronics.
Sorry I didn't go back far enough. I thought this was about something else.

PS. I'm surprised you can even find lead based solder any more for any application. I still have some in my stash.
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It’s available everywhere.
It’s guys that know what to do with it that are rare.
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Undy, what specific tank did you modify and how difficult was it? I am contemplating modifying a T-Bird tank to have the outlet on the left. Is it difficult to de-solder and can it be done with a normal propane torch?
You have to de-solder every joint and clean every last bit of solder off/out of the joints. If you don't the silver solder won't bond. After that and the application of the required silver solder flux you'll need an oxy-acetylene torch as a propane torch doesn't produce adequate heat for silver soldering. After nearly 20 years after I did the tank I've had zero leaks. I was repairing leaks every couple weeks with the soft soldered joints.
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Eight or 10 years ago I bought a new expansion tank from these folks:
https://classicfordradiator.com/61-6...sion-tank.aspx

I wanted to powder coat it but knew the solder melt temp was less than the powder coat cure temp. I 100% disassembled the tank, bought some lead-based solder, some flux and used Bernz-O-Matic propane torch. I melted off and cleaned off all the original solder and rebuilt the expansion tank with the lead solder. And then I powder coated it. No leaks these many years later.

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