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10-18-2004, 09:51 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Southern California,
CA
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 675 - 427 SO
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Anybody running a Richmond 5 Speed behind a FE
Hello all. My ERA will be using a 427 with a Richmond 5 speed. I currently have the Hayes 12-240 steel flywheel, the Lakewood 15210 scatter shield, and the 7041710 Richmond 5 speed with a 1 1/8" 26 Ford spine input shaft.
Here's where I'm confused. I haven't found an 11" clutch and pressure plate with the 1 1/8" 26 spine advertised for a Ford, only GM. If I buy the 11' clutch and pressure plate for the GM setup, do I need to buy the GM throw-out bearing and fork? So, if anybody could shed some light on what I need, it would be appreciated. Thanks, Tom.
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10-18-2004, 11:10 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: New Britain,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Size 10 Feet
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The "trick" is to use the GM driven disk (we us the McLeod brand ) with the Ford pressure plate, throwout bearing and fork.
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10-18-2004, 12:48 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Southern California,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 675 - 427 SO
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Thanks Bob
Thanks Bob. Will the McCleod/GM 11" 1 1/8" 26 clutch plate work with any 11" Ford pressure plate and throw-out bearing, or does it need to be used with a specific type pressure plate such as diaphram, long style or Bork & Beck ? Thanks, again- Tom
Last edited by ERA Tom; 10-18-2004 at 03:44 PM..
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10-18-2004, 03:48 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: New Britain,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Size 10 Feet
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Weber 360033: 11" FE PRESS PLATE, 12 7/8" Circle (DIAPHRAM)
Weber 360850: 12 3/8" CIRCLE, (DIAPHRAM)
There's a diagram here to measure your pressure plate mounting pattern.
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10-18-2004, 04:52 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: E BRUNSWICK N.J. USA,
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ERA TOM Tom the 2 flywheels a have are drilled for both Ford and GM clutches, 11.0" I have a GM input on both my trans. Use the same Lakewood Shield as your. Have the ERA clutch fork that is modified. Everything works fine. Put a limiter on the pedal like it says in the manual from ERA. You should have no problem. Rick Lake
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10-18-2004, 06:17 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 675 - 427 SO
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Rick, what pressure plate and clutch are you running?
Thanks, Tom
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10-19-2004, 04:13 AM
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Location: E BRUNSWICK N.J. USA,
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TomERA Tom I am using a GM clutch from centerforce. I REMOVED the wieghts because the thing wouldn't shift over 3500 rpm. The lockup on the pressure plate caused this problem. Your clutch may be drilled for both 11" clutches. I go racing once a year and it is very hard on the clutch so if it blows, I have to options, Ford or GM to fine parts to fix the car. I am not limited to just Ford. Have had no problem with the setup in 5 years. Just a burning smell after 1/4 mile runs It's all good. Rick Lake
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10-19-2004, 07:40 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Plantersville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Self Built, 427 USRRC, 427FE, Toploader
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Rick,
All Chevy clutch plates smell that way!
grumpy
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10-20-2004, 03:14 PM
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Join Date: Nov 1999
Location: White Plains,,
NY
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA140, ERA 267, ERA GT2038, ERA FIA 2045, ERAGT2077 ERA2893000EXP
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ERA Tom:
The Richmond Gear (formerly DN 4+1) setup is a great combo with the big block FE. I had the setup on my first two ERA427SCs. The first car had 2.88 rear gear and the second a 3.08.
The better shifter is made by Long Machine in PA. It will require some modification to center the shift handle in the center of the tunnel.
Jim
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10-20-2004, 08:11 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2003
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 675 - 427 SO
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Thanks Jim. Since you have owned serveral ERA's, I'll ask you one more question on this topic and then I promise to ask no more. Where did you find a clutch plate alignment tool for aligning the clutch plate. All the plastic ones I've found so far for the 1 1/8" x 26 input shaft have the smaller GM pilot size. The Ford pilot shaft is much larger. Thanks to everybody for their comments. - Tom
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10-21-2004, 08:00 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Livermore,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #629, BBM Side Oiler Block, 482ci, Richmond 5 speed
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Tom,
I'm running the same combo. An FE with the Richmond 5spd with 2.88 gears. I couldn't find a cheapy plastic clutch alignment tool either so I bought a more expensive metal one from my local Carquest auto parts store. The one I bought is universal. I think it cost me about $20. It came with several different pilot bushing pieces. You screw the right size one onto the end of the shaft. The clutch plate portion of the tool is tapered so it fits various size clutch plates. It wasn't the greatest but it got the job done. If you can't picture what I'm describing, let me know. I can take a picture and post it tonight if you want to see it.
Chris
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10-21-2004, 08:13 AM
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Thanks Chris
I'll check it out at CC. If you want to post the pics that would be good to.- Tom
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