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05-03-2005, 09:46 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Midland Park,
NJ
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 389 427s/o
Posts: 1,247
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Lights
Lighting problem.
Headlights work on highbeam all the time. On a occasion the low beams don't work. Actually it more like on occasion they do work.
I have noticed that when they do come on when I turn on the high beams and back to low beams that it typically cuts out at that point.
When I initially turn the lights on it is now guarantee that the lights will work then either.
Any idea on where I should start?
Thanks
Jamie
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05-04-2005, 05:21 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: New Britain,
CT
Cobra Make, Engine: Size 10 Feet
Posts: 3,015
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Jamie,
Your headlight relay ist kaput. The VW number is 111 941 583. If you find one locally, DO NOT buy the Meyle brand. I just sent back a pile of 'em because they were defective from the factory.
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05-04-2005, 06:42 AM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Midland Park,
NJ
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 389 427s/o
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Thanks!
I'll give that a try.
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06-15-2019, 03:42 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Vancouver,
BC
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #456
Posts: 30
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Where is this headlight relay located? I am having the same issue & got a new relay from VW going by the part number provided, but I can't find where it is.
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06-15-2019, 06:29 PM
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Half-Ass Member
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 22,005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbybeige
Where is this headlight relay located? I am having the same issue & got a new relay from VW going by the part number provided, but I can't find where it is.
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Right above your knees, usually attached with a zip tie to the steering column or thereabouts.
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06-16-2019, 04:23 AM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Jun 2010
Location: North of Toronto,
Ont
Cobra Make, Engine: Superformance #1950, Roush 402R, TKO600
Posts: 552
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Jamie
Any luck with the sale of your Cobra?
Stu.
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06-17-2019, 10:30 AM
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Average Guy
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Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Rushville,
IN
Cobra Make, Engine: red Shell Valley, white stripes
Posts: 579
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I have the old school floor-mounted dimmer switch setup. Once, I had a similar situation to yours. I found a connection to the dimmer switch had gotten loose to the point where it would only make contact sporadically. It was clear that the loose connection had generated some heat, too. I shortened the wire, installed a new terminal, and plugged things back together at the dimmer switch, and all was well-has worked for years now. Don't know if your setup is like this, but if so, it's worth a look.
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06-17-2019, 10:50 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Vancouver,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #456
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
Right above your knees, usually attached with a zip tie to the steering column or thereabouts.
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That's where I thought it would be, but I only saw a flasher relay there (3 pin) Did not see the headlight relay anywhere. Unless it's hidden behind the kick panel
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06-17-2019, 10:52 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Vancouver,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #456
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sawdust
Jamie
Any luck with the sale of your Cobra?
Stu.
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I see it still on Cobra Country.
https://www.cobracountry.com/cars-fo...cobra-wheaton/
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06-17-2019, 10:59 AM
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Half-Ass Member
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbybeige
That's where I thought it would be, but I only saw a flasher relay there (3 pin) Did not see the headlight relay anywhere. Unless it's hidden behind the kick panel
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Here's a pic of mine. Note the headlight relay at the top of the pic. It is zip tied to the steering column. The flasher unit is part of the trailer relay fusing set up. It all runs in to the same circuitry, so it's got to be around there somewhere. Try tracing the wires as you see them below. It's probably just hiding behind something.
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06-17-2019, 11:09 AM
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Half-Ass Member
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Wait a minute -- you don't have the old Triumph column in there, do you?
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06-17-2019, 12:27 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Vancouver,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #456
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Yes I do. That sounds like it just illuminated a bulb.......
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06-17-2019, 12:30 PM
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Half-Ass Member
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbybeige
Yes I do. That sounds like it just illuminated a bulb.......
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Yep, the Triumph column does not use a headlight relay. It's all in the switch itself. I would shoot Bob P. an email and ask him if there's a cheap and easy upgrade on that switch (assuming it's broken).
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06-17-2019, 01:13 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2013
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #456
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Oh damn...........
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06-17-2019, 01:18 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Vancouver,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #456
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
Yep, the Triumph column does not use a headlight relay. It's all in the switch itself. I would shoot Bob P. an email and ask him if there's a cheap and easy upgrade on that switch (assuming it's broken).
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The switch in the column was my first suspect, as when I switched high beam on & off sometimes the lights would come on, then of course until now when they won't go on at all
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06-17-2019, 01:21 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbybeige
The switch in the column was my first suspect, as when I switched high beam on & off sometimes the lights would come on, then of course until now when they won't go on at all
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Bob might just have something that makes it an easy fix. I'm sure you are not the first one that has experienced a Triumph switch failure.
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06-17-2019, 01:30 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: White City,
SK
Cobra Make, Engine: West Coast, 460 CID
Posts: 2,908
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
Bob might just have something that makes it an easy fix. I'm sure you are not the first one that has experienced a Triumph switch failure.
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Triumph. British. Like Lucas.
Say no more.
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06-17-2019, 02:57 PM
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CC Member
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Vancouver,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #456
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
Bob might just have something that makes it an easy fix. I'm sure you are not the first one that has experienced a Triumph switch failure.
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I shouldn't say for sure it's the Triumph column, I don't have paperwork with me or a good picture. But it has the high/low beam switch on the right side stalk, signal on the left.
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06-17-2019, 05:38 PM
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Half-Ass Member
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bobbybeige
I shouldn't say for sure it's the Triumph column, I don't have paperwork with me or a good picture. But it has the high/low beam switch on the right side stalk, signal on the left.
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The ERA column, as opposed to the Triumph column, only has one stalk, which you can rotate to either side of the steering column. Like the VW part that it is, it has the little button behind the back of the end of the stalk that flips the relay between high and low beams. The relay itself "locks" in to place, as opposed to being held with continuous current via an electro-magnet. So, if you have the lights on HIGH, and you turn the switch completely off, when you turn the lights back on they will still be in HIGH mode. That's actually handy if you want to leave your lights in HIGH and then you can flash your lights via the toggle switch at people.
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07-04-2019, 03:47 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: Vancouver,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #456
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Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickt
Bob might just have something that makes it an easy fix. I'm sure you are not the first one that has experienced a Triumph switch failure.
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I've sent Bob an email a couple of weeks ago, but haven't heard back. Does anybody know of a way around the old Triumph column switch? I have no need for high beams.
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