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04-11-2006, 08:42 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Nelsonville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX4000, Shelby aluminum 496 ci FE
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Toggle switches on ERA problem
My ERA has two dash mounted toggle switches, one is the headlight switch and the other is the cooling fan over ride switch. They both occasionally lose contact or don't work unless you wiggle them around. They visually appear to be Lucas switches, at least they look like the picture in the Finish-Line website of Lucas switches. Anyone else experiencing this problem? I was just going to order new ones but if this is a common problem I may want to try another type of toggle switch. Thanks for any input.
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CSX4761
ERA #115 - sold
ERA #002 - sold
07 GT500
66 GT350 tribute
70 Mach 1
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04-11-2006, 09:18 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Los Angeles,
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Cobra Make, Engine: E.R.A. FIA #2088 1964 289 w/Webers
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Haven't had any problems yet.
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04-11-2006, 10:11 PM
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Location: Chicago,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 454 S.O.
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None with mine either, number 269.
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04-11-2006, 10:38 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Lockeford,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Midstates, Genesis 427 S/O
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Doug,
When the switches "lose contact", do both lose power at the same time?
Chris
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04-12-2006, 01:44 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: nor cal,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA
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doug, i had a similar problem. does the front of those toggle switches heat up at all? where the metal washer screw is on the front. i found out that the rear of the switch had the bottom wire connector touching the metal lip on the inside of the dash.. i just bent them up a bit...
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04-12-2006, 05:15 AM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: New Britain,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Size 10 Feet
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Finishline's S2 and S3 are the correct replacements. Make sure you save your retaining nuts in case the new ones are different.
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04-12-2006, 06:02 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX4000, Shelby aluminum 496 ci FE
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I haven't noticed any heat from them but I can check to be sure they aren't grounding out. The headlight switch didn't work at all when I first got the car but after working the switch back and forth several times it started working and hasn't given me any more trouble that I'm aware of but I haven't used the headlights much. The fan switch sometimes works first thing and other times has to be played with a bit first. I'll probably just go ahead and order replacements since it doesn't seem to be normally a problem with them. Thanks everyone.
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CSX4761
ERA #115 - sold
ERA #002 - sold
07 GT500
66 GT350 tribute
70 Mach 1
65 Comet gasser
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04-12-2006, 07:21 AM
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Location: miami,
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Cobra Make, Engine: E-M Cobra Ford FE 427 w/ Webers 48 IDA
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Hi D Ford,
I am in the process of building my harness and noticed the same situation with the headlight switch. In research I have heard that the common problem is the switch falling apart. If I wiggle my switch it seems to work. I was planning on trying to open the switch to see if there is another way of fixing them. I believe that it has to do with the poor crimp from metal to plastic.
All the other switches do not have the look and feel to the lucas switch.
I hope this helps
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04-12-2006, 08:05 AM
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Location: columbus,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Unique 427 roadster with 351C-4B
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My prince of darkness switches always feel like that right before they fail. I have added relays so they don't carry and real current. No failures since. I don't know how the ERA is wired, if the switches activate relays, fine, if not, adding them might help the new ones. Either way, time to order some replacements!
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04-12-2006, 08:21 AM
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Location: Livermore,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #629, BBM Side Oiler Block, 482ci, Richmond 5 speed
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Doug,
I had the same problem with my heater toggle switch. It wouldn't work unless I wiggled the back of it. I replaced it a while back and it's been fine ever since.
Chris
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04-12-2006, 08:34 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Southeast,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #375 427 S/C - 428FE - Toploader - 1968 AMX 390 Go Pack 4 Speed - My Daily Driver is a 2004 Crossfire
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You may want to check your ground. On the ERA the ground for the headlight and parking lights and fans is up front on the "X" member. I had an intermittent grounding problem in the past. With Bob's guidance, I narrowed it down to the ground at the X member. My frame was powder coated. The Ground point at the front X member needed to have some of the powder coat chipped away with an Xacto blade and then I cleaned the ground point where the screw applied pressure to the wire bundle connection. I also applied some dielectric grease to the hole as well as the wire connection. Since then all is well. My headlights are now very bright as a result.
So check your ground point would be my advice.
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