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02-20-2010, 08:39 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Chas, Chas, Chas, you must wait to hear the report from Smith Bros. But of course, I know you will still stand by your position even after the report comes back that the "crack" was nothing more than a harmless surface blemish that is seen all the time.  |
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02-20-2010, 01:31 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary Cobra, 427 side oiler
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You boys be nice or I'm not going to post the findings, leaving you to suffer never knowing.  |
02-20-2010, 01:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by elmariachi
You boys be nice or I'm not going to post the findings, leaving you to suffer never knowing. |
I already know the answer. But, Chas & Rick could bolster their positions if they could cite a single instance on ClubCobra, FordFE, or even the Ford Truck Forums, where an FE push rod bent or broke because of a crack in the push rod itself, not because of a valve train issue (stuck valve, etc.) or because they were the wrong size, mismatched, or the tips were wrong. They're not going to be able to do it and, what's more, they're going to come up with some sort of lame excuse for refusing to do so.  |
02-20-2010, 02:19 PM
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Yada, yada....
Hammerhead-those of us that stress the car more forcefully than a leisurely trip to the haberdasher won't drive with cracked parts in the motor. Period. No matter what event, condition, method or material was the cause.
Rick and I have to prove nothing. We're content to let you continue to be the Village Idiot.
Nobody on here will be rushing to buy 732 when it's no longer your fave diversion, knowing you'd overlook junk parts in it..
Continue your serial blather- elM knows how to solve his problems, overlooking your relentless attempts at intellectual prowess and debating skill.
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02-20-2010, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ERA Chas
Yada, yada....
Rick and I have to prove nothing....
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That's a lame excuse. I now double-dog dare ya.... |
02-21-2010, 10:09 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Hurricane - FE
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Gettin' good
Jim (elM)
Would you pass me some popcorn, this is getting better by the moment 
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02-21-2010, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by PaulProe
Jim (elM)
Would you pass me some popcorn, this is getting better by the moment |
Uhhh, Paul... what Chas. won't tell you, and what he will no doubt fervently deny, is that he spent the better part of yesterday scouring the 'net trying to find a post that would prove me wrong. It probably didn't occur to him until he gave up and went to bed that I had already done that prior to throwing down the dare.  |
02-21-2010, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by patrickt
Uhhh, Paul... what Chas. won't tell you, and what he will no doubt fervently deny, is that he spent the better part of yesterday scouring the 'net trying to find a post that would prove me wrong. It probably didn't occur to him until he gave up and went to bed that I had already done that prior to throwing down the dare. |
Man-you'll say ANYTHING to make a pot boil!
Don't even think of flattering yourself that you could get ANY of us to do that.
You're a man of many hats: dickhat, foolscap, and worst of all-a Redskins helmet. Good thing you've got a haberdasher.
Try this crap on your favorite cigar and wine and cheese forums...
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03-02-2010, 03:51 AM
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Well it's been 1 week? any news???
elmariachi Jim 1 week and NO STORY!!!!!!  What gives??  If nothing else hope you got the car back together again and running. Rick L. Ps your number is unhooked. |
03-02-2010, 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by RICK LAKE
elmariachi Jim 1 week and NO STORY!!!!!! What gives?? If nothing else hope you got the car back together again and running. Rick L. Ps your number is unhooked. |
Rick, I'm telling you, the answer from Smith Bros. will be "We examined your push rod and the marks on the surface were harmless blemishes that do not affect the structural integrity of the rod in any way. Thank you for your concern." Then I'm going to fly you and Chas. to California to dance on the hood of RodKnock's car. |
03-02-2010, 06:41 AM
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Could be a surface flaw, but there's definitely no harm in having it checked out....and if it were mine, I probably would have just replaced it if I were that up in the air about it.
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03-02-2010, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by blykins
Could be a surface flaw, but there's definitely no harm in having it checked out....
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Ahh Brent, once again you have stumbled blindly down the wrong avenue. The issue is not what to do after the pushrod was out of the car, in his hand, and the manufacturer was on the phone saying "Sure, we'd be happy to send you a new one as a courtesy" (that's pretty easy). Rather, the issue was whether or not he needed to do anything at all in the first place -- or whether the whole mess was just a result of his use of a shot glass for an optical eyepiece. |
03-02-2010, 07:45 AM
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From what I've read, you're the only one with your opinion.....so maybe I'm not the blind one.
He did the right thing. No harm in being cautious. |
03-02-2010, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by blykins
From what I've read, you're the only one with your opinion....
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That makes it all the more satisfying when proven right. |
03-02-2010, 07:49 AM
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I didn't say you're wrong....but I would trust el's common sense. Plus he's the one that's actually looking at the thing in person.
My point is there's no harm in being cautious.
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03-02-2010, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by blykins
My point is there's no harm in being cautious.
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Surely you have considered that the better position is when you have a perfectly broken in solid flat tappet cam in your FE you do not pull the rockers and rods absent a compelling reason to do so.... |
03-02-2010, 09:14 AM
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If it looks like it's cracked, that's compelling enough for me.
Pulling a pushrod is not something I stress over....even on an FE.
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03-02-2010, 04:41 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
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Cobra Make, Engine: BDR 1311 428PI
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Originally Posted by patrickt
Surely you have considered that the better position is when you have a perfectly broken in solid flat tappet cam in your FE you do not pull the rockers and rods absent a compelling reason to do so.... |
Until the day that you change your oil and don't realize that the gubment has mandated the removal of even more zinc (to protect the endangered widebilled thistle thrush of course) which results in your flat tappet getting real flat.
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03-02-2010, 04:52 PM
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El. M. -- out of curiousity, did you put the pushrods back in the same holes, or shuffle them around a bit after you inspected them?
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03-02-2010, 05:26 PM
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El Mariachi - missing in action
Guys,
Jim's new day job is getting in the way of his hobby. He's in San Francisco, living the good life at a trade show. In the mean time, we can give all kinds of grief knowing he only has limited access to the computer machine
Just my luck. Popcorn came my way and then "intermission"
Paul
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