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09-30-2010, 03:45 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 6022, navy blue, period correct 427 SO
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Originally Posted by patrickt
And I don't even know why they talk about the resistance in a plug wire if you can believe the comparisons on the Moroso page. There is absolutely no correlation between spark energy and wire resistance (if you can believe the graph).
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If you read the Magnecor stuff, it basically says that resistance in a plug wired is not measured the same and often the measurement isn't particularly relevant to performance anyway, depending on how they did it.
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09-30-2010, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by dcdoug
If you read the Magnecor stuff, it basically says that resistance in a plug wired is not measured the same and often the measurement isn't particularly relevant to performance anyway, depending on how they did it.
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Yeah, I did see that. But I kinda wonder whether or not some of their site isn't just "puffery."  Surely we've got a few guys with EEs on here. |
09-30-2010, 04:07 PM
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At the end of the day, it's all marketing spin and it makes it hard to decide who's BS smells less. 
If I can get Moroso or Taylor in black either 7mm or 8mm, I may go with them. Good quality, reputable companies. I emailed both companies as they don't make it that easy on their product catalogs to tell if they have the right size, color, etc.
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10-01-2010, 08:18 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Sold my beloved Shelby CSX 4068, Gessford 427 Ford
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If it was me, I'd go with a Ford Racing universal set in black. Buy a good set of crimping pliers and make them up yourself. It's easy - you cut each wire to length (one end is already on), slide a boot on, fold the conductor back over the end and crimp the connector on. Slide the boot down over the connector, and you're done. Repeat 7 more times.
The 8mm+ wires are too large for the factory valve cover wire holder thingys, so you will need to buy a set of Moroso or some other brand wire separators, drill a couple of holes in them, and rivet or bolt them to the valve cover tabs.
Summit has good Ford Racing prices, and quick, free shipping.
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10-01-2010, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by DougD
The 8mm+ wires are too large for the factory valve cover wire holder thingys, so you will need to buy a set of Moroso or some other brand wire separators, drill a couple of holes in them, and rivet or bolt them to the valve cover tabs.
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Uhhh, I submit that's easier than making your own wires. Or just buy fatter looms, like I did.
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10-01-2010, 08:38 AM
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Whatever brand wire he chooses, he'll still have to make up a valve cover holder thingy if they're over 7mm.
Since he's always concerned with appearing original, I suggested a universal Moroso or other brand. The ones I used come in black, and are close to the same size and shape to the original Ford holders. Your blue ones are kinda blingy......
Making up your own custom length wires isn't hard.
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10-01-2010, 08:42 AM
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Your blue ones are kinda blingy.......
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Making up your own custom length wires isn't hard.
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He can't do it without screwing it up.  If he made his own plug wires he would be complaining that his car was now missing and backfiring.  |
10-01-2010, 09:37 AM
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The valve cover holder "thingy's" for the Duraspark motor are made larger to accomodate the factory 8mm wires. I used them on my engine with Taylor 8.2 wires with no problem. Had to scour the junk yards to find two in good shape as they are no longer available from Ford.
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10-01-2010, 09:38 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DougD
The 8mm+ wires are too large for the factory valve cover wire holder thingys, so you will need to buy a set of Moroso or some other brand wire separators, drill a couple of holes in them, and rivet or bolt them to the valve cover tabs.
Summit has good Ford Racing prices, and quick, free shipping.
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Not necessarily true... I'm running 8.5s in mine with the OEM valve cover mounted looms/separators.
Run your wires and put the separators on the valve covers. Get a heat gun/good hair dryer and heat up the separators. Immediately push the wires in. (they'll now slip in relatively easy) Let everything cool and there'll be no in/out problems in the future.
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10-01-2010, 10:02 AM
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X2 on what Undy said ... that`s what I did to my stock looms and no problems for almost two years .
Bob
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10-01-2010, 10:09 AM
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X2 on what Undy said ... that`s what I did to my stock looms and no problems for almost two years .
Bob
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X2 with Taylor black wires and stock looms, rolled over 5k miles last night and no issues. I used some goo-gone to remove the white silkscreen on the wires and they look great. (Sorry no pics, I spend all my time driving and not photographing.)  |
10-01-2010, 10:13 AM
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It's actually easier to post a nice explanatory photo than it is to delve into prolific prose. |
10-01-2010, 10:20 AM
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It's actually easier to post a nice explanatory photo than it is to delve into prolific prose. |
We've already been through this, you just like showing off your manicure. |
10-01-2010, 10:22 AM
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We've already been through this, you just like showing off your manicure. |
I think I even had my toes in the LED Brake Light thread. I may have edited that out though; they're pretty gnarly....
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Reason: couldn't spell gnarly...
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10-01-2010, 10:29 AM
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Okay, I lied, here is a pic:
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10-01-2010, 10:33 AM
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I think those are the most attractive plug wires I've ever seen.  |
10-01-2010, 10:40 AM
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That does tell me that I need to get rid of my stupid red distributor cap though.
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10-01-2010, 10:42 AM
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and you need to put the left side wires on correctly!
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10-01-2010, 10:43 AM
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and you need to put the left side wires on correctly!
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Remind me again what I did on that? Was it that 7 and 8 were too close? |
10-01-2010, 10:49 AM
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