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Old 04-05-2011, 07:20 PM
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Default Original style fuel filter and fuel lines

I'm trying to gather original appearing parts for my motor which has a low rise dual quad 427 intake. Are there any reasonably priced sources for the 2-piece fuel cannister and two fuel lines from pump to filter and filter to the fuel log? Or reproduction sets anywhere? I've seen some on Ebay with prices in the $450 range for a complete set up (ouch!) - which leads me to suspect the answer is going to be no.

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Lots of luck. I've been looking for a few myself for the last 6 months or so. Go to some older salvage yards. I found a set up on a late 50's/early 60's ford pick up with a 352 engine in it. You may get lucky and find one that way.
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Dan ... Gregg Donahue in FL used to carry the lines ( repos ) , but hasn`t had any of the filter cans for a while . Originals will be in the $300 to $400 range , if you can find them . They were also used on Ford trucks in the mid 60`s on most V8`s . I`ve got an original on my 427 Galaxie and a spare that I plan on using on the Cobra sometime . If you find one , leave the filter out of it and use an inline filter somewhere out of sight .... doesn`t create as much pressure drop and flows more fuel .
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I have done a lot of eBay shopping over the past two years of Cobra ownership and the majority of my reconnoitering has been trying to score that elusive filter. The repros are prone to leaks....so you save $150 and burn your car to the ground. Finally found a real one for $250 on eBay, and got my lines and bracket from Greg D. Still need to install it.
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The repro cannisters were made by Dale's in OKC and in their catalogue it even states "very hard to get to seal after being unscrewed" so consider that challenge.

The genny Ford items are fewer and farther between but still should be some in boneyards in the netheregions. Good hunting.
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There is a guy in Michigan, Galaxie Performance, try him, he is difficult to work with, no small talk, just strictly business, might also try Dearborn Steel Tubing
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Galaxie Performance has 1 listed on ebay. The complete set up. I think he is asking $450. I still say to search all your local salvage yards. You may get lucky and find 1 you can use like I did.
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Can someone post a picture of the set up? It would be interesting to see how hard the filter and lines would be to reproduce reliably.
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That filter as the guys point out is the hard part with the 3/8" lines for the HiPo engines. They are typically $400ish by themselves. Dearborn Tube (Tim Mason) has some nice filters that are similar in appearance and work on the factory bracket. Tim also has the tubes and fittings but I have made those. If you are running a fuel pressure guage you will also need a fuel log with the additional fitting on the back. I have also made those.
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The saavy reproductionista can use the known-to-leak ones by hiding an inline filter within it... or just feeding a solid fuel line right thru it (no cannister filter element) to achieve the look, then conceal an inline modern fuel filter down by the frame (out of sight)

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That filter as the guys point out is the hard part with the 3/8" lines for the HiPo engines. They are typically $400ish by themselves. Dearborn Tube (Tim Mason) has some nice filters that are similar in appearance and work on the factory bracket. Tim also has the tubes and fittings but I have made those. If you are running a fuel pressure guage you will also need a fuel log with the additional fitting on the back. I have also made those.
+1 for Tim. I got everything I need from him. He has the NOS brackets, etc. The lines are high quality repros, the canister is also a high quality repro, but won't leak like the originals often did. Better than what you'll probably find on Ebay. Tim is generally a very knowledgeable great guy.
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Thanks guys. I haven't been out to the salvage yards in a couple of years but I could give that a try. Are the truck units set up for 3/8 in fuel lines also?

I've seen chrome and painted filter canisters on Ebay. How can I tell the repros from the originals? Are the originals all painted?

Thanks for the lead on Dearborn tube and for the idea of running a line straight through the filter cannister.

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Old 04-06-2011, 07:34 PM
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A somewhat related question - is there any difference in standard mechanical fuel pumps between the 4bbl and dual 4bbl motors? Same mechanical fuel pump?
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That filter as the guys point out is the hard part with the 3/8" lines for the HiPo engines. They are typically $400ish by themselves. Dearborn Tube (Tim Mason) has some nice filters that are similar in appearance and work on the factory bracket. Tim also has the tubes and fittings but I have made those. If you are running a fuel pressure guage you will also need a fuel log with the additional fitting on the back. I have also made those.
Haven't been able to hit on Dearborn Tube on Google - at least for automotive parts. Do you mean Dearborn Classics by chance?
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Dan, if you haven't looked here;
http://www.network54.com/Index/10214
then you may want to look around on it and maybe post a WTB add. Lots of good FE info floating around that forum as well.

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Paying $400+ for one on eBay is a pure rip-off. Patience and last-minute bidding will produce one for much less.
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What's the worry of a leaky old period correct filter right next to your ignition coil......
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What's the worry of a leaky old period correct filter right next to your ignition coil......
http://dearbornsteeltubing.homestead.com/homepage.html
OK, thanks for the help Mickmate.
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Thanks guys. I haven't been out to the salvage yards in a couple of years but I could give that a try. Are the truck units set up for 3/8 in fuel lines also?

I've seen chrome and painted filter canisters on Ebay. How can I tell the repros from the originals? Are the originals all painted?

Thanks for the lead on Dearborn tube and for the idea of running a line straight through the filter cannister.

Dan
Painted or chrome are correct. I have several historic photos in Cobra books that show them to be black on the 427 engines. The chromed units were part of an underhood dress up option on Galaxies and Fairlanes.

The one on my car now, was chrome. Last year I powder coated it satin black.

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I never knew they were used on trucks until today...to think of all the ones I've passed up over the years without checking under the hoods!

Called Tim at DST today and left a message, hopefully I didn't put off ordering mine too long he can get me a kit too...
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