428 service block value

[redmt]

What is a new in the box old stock 428 service block worth? Block is supposed to be as shipped from the factory.

[lovehamr]

It's worth about $12 as a huge paper weight!





Now where was that you were getting this POS?

[redmt]

Originally Posted by lovehamr

It's worth about $12 as a huge paper weight!





Now where was that you were getting this POS?

???? A brand new 428 block is worth $12.00? I'll take all that you have.

[Dwight]

John try this DSC Motorsport Ford Racing Parts or better call and ask what they would want for one, if they had one.

Dwight

[Dwight]

here you go John, looks like a used one is $450 up.
Dwight


Ford Blocks
221-260-289 $500.00 / ea C
302 Passenger Car $150.00 / ea A
302 Roller $225.00 / ea B
302 (Boss) $900.00 / + D
302 Mexican $600.00 / + C
351 W ' 69 - ' 71 $350.00 / ea A
351 C HO or CJ (4 bolt main) $550.00 / ea C
352 $200.00 / ea C
390 $350.00 / ea B
390 Truck ( Can be bored to 4.13, Sonic Tested) $500.00 / ea C
406 $500.00 / + D
427 Top Oiler $800.00 / + C
428 CJ, Service or Passenger, priced from $450.00 / + B
429 SCJ (4 bolt main) Priced From $1,100.00 / ea C
429-460 Early 2 bolt main C8VE, C9VE or D1VE $300.00 / ea B
Ford A-460 Racing Block $2,300.00 / each A
429 CJ (2 bolt main) Priced from $500.00 / ea B
427 Side Oiler $1,500.00 / + C
427 Side Oiler, NEW ALUMINUM $4,500.00 / ea N
427 Side Oiler, NEW IRON $3,500.00 / ea N

[lovehamr]

Originally Posted by redmt

???? A brand new 428 block is worth $12.00? I'll take all that you have.

Sorry man, that was supposed to be a joke. Guess it was poorly delivered.

[redmt]

Originally Posted by lovehamr

Sorry man, that was supposed to be a joke. Guess it was poorly delivered.

Timing is everything!!

[undy]

$1500

[DanEC]

Originally Posted by undy

$1500

That's what Keith charged me for the 428 service block he built my engine on. It wasn't brand new but it showed minor wear and cleaned up with very slight overbore. I'm sure he bought it for something less.

[redmt]

Originally Posted by undy

$1500

I guess it would be whatever the local market will bear. The market on the west coast seems to be somewhat less as since I posted the original question I've received a couple leads around the 3-500 range. That is more what I had expected. The guy who triggered the question was asking $1200 which I thought was too high. I haven't chased any of the leads. I picked up another 105 block today that has plenty of meat in it. I'll get it sonic checked in the next couple days.

[LMH]

What would a 105 block that's been tested, bored to 4.13 and fully machined be worth?
Just curious as I have one.
Larry

[redmt]

It's got to be worth as much as the machine work and a sonic report.

JMHO

[LMH]

I think I have about $1200-$1500 in it. In addition to the bore/sonic test, it's been decked, squared, line bored etc. That's about what I figured it was worth.
Thanks!
Larry

[lippy]

Originally Posted by Dwight

here you go John, looks like a used one is $450 up.
Dwight


Ford Blocks
221-260-289 $500.00 / ea C
302 Passenger Car $150.00 / ea A
302 Roller $225.00 / ea B
302 (Boss) $900.00 / + D
302 Mexican $600.00 / + C
351 W ' 69 - ' 71 $350.00 / ea A
351 C HO or CJ (4 bolt main) $550.00 / ea C
352 $200.00 / ea C
390 $350.00 / ea B
390 Truck ( Can be bored to 4.13, Sonic Tested) $500.00 / ea C
406 $500.00 / + D
427 Top Oiler $800.00 / + C
428 CJ, Service or Passenger, priced from $450.00 / + B
429 SCJ (4 bolt main) Priced From $1,100.00 / ea C
429-460 Early 2 bolt main C8VE, C9VE or D1VE $300.00 / ea B
Ford A-460 Racing Block $2,300.00 / each A
429 CJ (2 bolt main) Priced from $500.00 / ea B
427 Side Oiler $1,500.00 / + C
427 Side Oiler, NEW ALUMINUM $4,500.00 / ea N
427 Side Oiler, NEW IRON $3,500.00 / ea N

Where is this from?

[redmt]

Originally Posted by lippy

Where is this from?

Really? You don't see Dwight's post directly above it?

05-12-2012 08:36 PM
Dwight John try this DSC Motorsport Ford Racing Parts or better call and ask what they would want for one, if they had one.

Dwight

[Keithc8]

When I could get good used ones I was charging 1500.00 for fully machined blocks ready to go. This is with about 700.00 in machine work. We bake, tumble, crack check, pressure test even before we do one machining operation. If it is bad you lose all of that time. So you may have to buy 5 to get 4 good ones. We then drill all press in oil galley plugs out and tap for screw in. Deburr the block and main webbing. Drill the oil galleys out for better oiling. Work in the main web oiling holes to align them with the bearing. Work the filter mount area for better oil flow transfer.
Then we bore and hone with torque plates, line hone the block, square deck the block, hone lifers bores, chamfer top of cylinders and head bolt holes. Then wash very well, install new cam bearings, oil galley plugs, freeze plugs and paint complete. This complete process takes about 12 hours on each block so no one is getting rich doing a FE block right but very few do half of these things to their FE blocks. You have to know what to do to them in the first place. Think I need to go up on price now that I list what all we do.
You would not believe the stuff we see done to these blocks and the stuff not done right to them. We also install an ARP main bolt kit on top of that. Now that I look at what all we do to them we may be to cheap.
I need to find some more service blocks and would pay 500.00 all day long for them. These are used blocks that need all work done to them. Remember I have to stand behind the ones that I sell and most of the time you are taking a chance. I know I have gotten taken several times and people would not give me my money back after they checked bad.

Good luck, Keith Craft

[redmt]

Originally Posted by Keithc8

When I could get good used ones I was charging 1500.00 for fully machined blocks ready to go. This is with about 700.00 in machine work. We bake, tumble, crack check, pressure test even before we do one machining operation. If it is bad you lose all of that time. So you may have to buy 5 to get 4 good ones. We then drill all press in oil galley plugs out and tap for screw in. Deburr the block and main webbing. Drill the oil galleys out for better oiling. Work in the main web oiling holes to align them with the bearing. Work the filter mount area for better oil flow transfer.
Then we bore and hone with torque plates, line hone the block, square deck the block, hone lifers bores, chamfer top of cylinders and head bolt holes. Then wash very well, install new cam bearings, oil galley plugs, freeze plugs and paint complete. This complete process takes about 12 hours on each block so no one is getting rich doing a FE block right but very few do half of these things to their FE blocks. You have to know what to do to them in the first place. Think I need to go up on price now that I list what all we do.
You would not believe the stuff we see done to these blocks and the stuff not done right to them. We also install an ARP main bolt kit on top of that. Now that I look at what all we do to them we may be to cheap.
I need to find some more service blocks and would pay 500.00 all day long for them. These are used blocks that need all work done to them. Remember I have to stand behind the ones that I sell and most of the time you are taking a chance. I know I have gotten taken several times and people would not give me my money back after they checked bad.

Good luck, Keith Craft

Thanks for all the info on your process but the original question was what a new old stock block was worth.

[DanEC]

Originally Posted by Keithc8

When I could get good used ones I was charging 1500.00 for fully machined blocks ready to go. This is with about 700.00 in machine work. We bake, tumble, crack check, pressure test even before we do one machining operation. If it is bad you lose all of that time. So you may have to buy 5 to get 4 good ones. We then drill all press in oil galley plugs out and tap for screw in. Deburr the block and main webbing. Drill the oil galleys out for better oiling. Work in the main web oiling holes to align them with the bearing. Work the filter mount area for better oil flow transfer.
Then we bore and hone with torque plates, line hone the block, square deck the block, hone lifers bores, chamfer top of cylinders and head bolt holes. Then wash very well, install new cam bearings, oil galley plugs, freeze plugs and paint complete. This complete process takes about 12 hours on each block so no one is getting rich doing a FE block right but very few do half of these things to their FE blocks. You have to know what to do to them in the first place. Think I need to go up on price now that I list what all we do.
You would not believe the stuff we see done to these blocks and the stuff not done right to them. We also install an ARP main bolt kit on top of that. Now that I look at what all we do to them we may be to cheap.
I need to find some more service blocks and would pay 500.00 all day long for them. These are used blocks that need all work done to them. Remember I have to stand behind the ones that I sell and most of the time you are taking a chance. I know I have gotten taken several times and people would not give me my money back after they checked bad.

Good luck, Keith Craft

I was negligent when I posted earlier in mentioning that the $1500 Keith charged for my block was with full machining and prep work. I liked the idea of building off an original block both for nostalgia and cost and he fixed me up with a nice block.

[redmt]

Originally Posted by DanEC

I was negligent when I posted earlier in mentioning that the $1500 Keith charged for my block was with full machining and prep work. I liked the idea of building off an original block both for nostalgia and cost and he fixed me up with a nice block.

$1500 for the block AND all the machine work is a good price. I was curious as to the cost of a bare block. The block that I was looking at was a service block, in the box, unprepared but new and unused. The guy was asking $1200 for it and I had $400-500. in mind.

I have been building old school FE's for about 40 years. There are many tricks for those blocks and we used to do them without the aid of CNC. It would be interesting to compare an old school prepped block versus a production machine shop CNC block.

[Keithc8]

We do have CNC block equipment but still do a lot of prep work by hand. I think the 1200.00 for the new block is not bad. My point was that I have given 600.00 to 800.00 for good used ones to some around to bulid engines with. If you do not want the block let me know about it and I would probably buy it.

Thanks, Keith