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10-16-2001, 06:29 PM
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Turkey Pan Fit Question.................
Need some help from you guys with turkey pans:
I bought one from Cobra Restorers. Popped it on the intake, then popped on the carb........... carb won't fit! The carb is 1/8 inch too wide for the pan. I am using a Holley #0-80531 850CFM.
Question:
Do I have a bad pan or the wrong carb? Or, does the pan need some pounding, filing, or cutting to make it fit? Any help would be appreciated.
BTW- any suggestions for gaskets/foam/insulator around the top edge of the pan to seal it to the hood correctly? How does one do about this?
Regards,
John
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10-16-2001, 11:23 PM
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turkey pan
hi bud!
my turkey pan was so tight with a 750 it was leaving black marks on the side of the pan i would say your turkey(carb) is just to fat! as far as leak check one way is at idle spray some carb cleaner around the base of the carb both in and underneath the t-pan if the idle increases it's drawing in the the cleaner indicating a leak my car had just gaskets, no sealant. hope this helps...
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10-17-2001, 09:01 AM
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Turkey Basting Pan
The COBRA Restorer pans that I received were for the 750 4779AAA Holley, not the 850, that's where the diff is, however, SA fabricated parts had three different ones that I have documented, so it's a shot in the dark to get it correct. Try COBRA Restorers again, they will solve the problem, and you can sell the 750 version to someone looking for that one.
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10-17-2001, 09:20 AM
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As far as I know all the pans were made for the 750-780 carb. The original was 780. I don't think they made them any bigger. Why are you using an 850? Did you dyno with it to check it? It could be over-carbed. You don't want to bog at idle. I run a trick 750 that flows like a 950 but has the snap down low like a 750.
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10-17-2001, 09:26 AM
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As far as the hood to pan thing. You can seal it if you want but in actuality, the pan is more for looks than for function. The holes that are in it for the linkage will certainly pull hot air from under the hood and the idea that air is drawn in through that small opening is false. We al know that a forward opening hood scoop doesn't work. The air actually misses the scoop. It would have worked better if it opened from the back but then it wouldn't look like a Cobra. Try your car at idle with the hood up and then close the hood. You will watch your tach vary and idle go down until it compensated the air to come through the scoop. It's a struggle.
All in all, it looks great though.
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10-17-2001, 12:08 PM
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Thanks for your help guys!
Ed......
Thanks for the tip. I'll try the leak test when completed.
Sonny .............
Thanks for the background. I will contact CR for a replacement should I keep the 850 carb.
Steve..........
I am using an 850 because that is what Mike at Shelby recommended. It finally goes to the dyno next week and we'll see if a smaller carb is in order. Actually, having never built an FE before, I just hope it won't blow up!
Regarding the pan gasket, I tend to agree with your logic. One less thing to worry about I guess.
Thanks again for the help guys. I love this site!!!
Regards,
John
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10-17-2001, 08:55 PM
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Tell Mike I say Hi! He was and is a great help to me. We have spoken a couple of thousand times.
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10-17-2001, 11:11 PM
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Steve, Wo did your carb? Is it based on the Holley core or a Demon?
I'm running a Demon 850 and in all actuality, I might be better off with a 750. I'd like to try one first though.
Re. the scoop: I made an airbox that mounts on top of my carb, with a foam seal to the hood. The first time I tried it, I actually lost some top-end punch, and when I got back home and looked into the scoop, the foam was actually sucked in at the top from the vacuum generated due to the small scoop opening.
Needless to say, it hasen't been back on the car since.
(Man I wish that scoop was bigger)
Thanks,
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10-17-2001, 11:25 PM
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I use a Bill Cerrli tweaked 750 Saturday night special.
Forget the foam.......A waiste
With carb size, sometimes smaller is better
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10-18-2001, 11:47 AM
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Steve,
Mike has been A LOT of help to me also. He assured me the 850 CFM was correct for 482 CI and the setup I have. Thanks again and I'll say "Hey" for you.
Regards,
John
P.S. I pick up the car in Vegas next weekend................. can't wait!
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10-18-2001, 01:26 PM
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Hello John,
I have that carburator in turkey pan on a 460 in my SPF. If you want to look at how I cut the pan to accomodate the Carb let me know.
Tony R.
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10-18-2001, 02:27 PM
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Tony,
Thanks for the offer. When is your next trip to Athens with your SFP? Perhaps a picture would do the trick?
Thanks again,
John
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10-18-2001, 02:34 PM
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Solution..............
Just got off the phone with Mike at Shelby and with Cobra Restorers and both gave me the same answer......................... BEND THE CARB LINKAGE TO FIT INSIDE THE PAN.
After looking at it again, seems very doable. Will advise the outcome. Thanks again.
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10-18-2001, 02:38 PM
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John,
I'll be there Saturday or you could drop by my place here in Alamo. I work out of my home office most days and the car is always here.
Tony R.
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10-18-2001, 03:09 PM
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Tony,
Thanks again. Gonna try the bending bit first. If I drag my butt out of bed and see you around 7:30 at Athens Saturday, you may conclude it did not work. Boy I wish you guys met later............ say 9:30?
Anyway, thank you again for your help and interest.
Regards,
John
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10-28-2001, 07:38 AM
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Hey guys where do you think is the most reasonible place to purchace a Turkey pan and will I need any special gaskets ? I'm running a Holley 750hp on my FE. Thanks Olaf
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10-28-2001, 08:23 AM
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You can get one through either Southern Automotive-(770)898-9360 or Finishline Products -Enzo Alibrandi's in Florida (look under member discounts above for link).
No special gaskets are required, just use another carb gasket under the turkeypan when you put it together.
jerry rowley
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