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04-02-2013, 07:32 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: BRADENTON,
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Cobra Make, Engine: KIRKHAM 427 S/C, SHELBY 427 ALUM. STROKER
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cyl 7-8 crossfire
I have the dreaded 7-8 crossfire problem which is easily rectified by separating the two wires, however it looks like crap! I have the wires run over the top center of the vc's as per original, and the wires are all parallel. All the pics of 427 engines I've seen have the wires run this way, so how are they getting by with this, unless that's just for pics or show, and the change wire placement for actual running ? I believe twisting the two wires a turn or two does the trick, but that doesn't look very good either.
Any suggestions?
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04-02-2013, 07:40 AM
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What type wires and ignition are you using? A good set of wires shouldn't allow that to happen.
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04-02-2013, 08:00 AM
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LH: MSD 6al, Taylor 8.5 mm wires.
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04-02-2013, 08:24 AM
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That seems pretty standard. I'm running my wires like yours but they're MSD so I don't know how much that changes things. Can you see where the cross fire is happening? i.e. a spark between wires? If so I'd think there was a problem with the wires.
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04-02-2013, 09:11 AM
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LH: I could hear a "Popping" in #8 carb stack at idle, almost metallic, like a valve sticking, and rough running and backfire through intake when driving. That all went away by twisting 7&8 wires or moving #8 away as far as possible.
It is an fe anomally due to firing order,as #'s 7&8 are adjacent and 8 fires right after 7.
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04-02-2013, 09:18 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Everett-Morrison LS1
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That goes back to 1958-----The order of the wires over the left valve cover are 7,5,6,8-Patrict has pictures---------
It was common place in late 50s early 60s to get a tune up and car would run like crap because 3 wires would have been put back on the wrong plugs----
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04-02-2013, 10:48 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Clayton
That goes back to 1958-----The order of the wires over the left valve cover are 7,5,6,8-Patrict has pictures---------
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I only route them this way to make Jerry happy. Any decent set of today's wires shouldn't have the 7/8 problem anymore. Upgrade your wires first, then put them in this order.
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04-02-2013, 04:19 PM
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Ran like crap today, had to cut the drive short and come home. Ran very well yesterday!
The wires are new ,8mil Taylor "Sprio Pro" made for MSD type ignition. Run high voltage wires close and parallel there's going to be some induction, many electrical devices depend on it. Will try Patricks/Jerry's fix tomorrow if it doesn't rain !,
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04-02-2013, 06:56 PM
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It isn't Patricks/Jerry's fix-----its the way Ford built them
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04-02-2013, 07:44 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry Clayton
It isn't Patricks/Jerry's fix----
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Well, you have to admit, it sounds better than Jerry/Patrick's fix....
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04-02-2013, 08:11 PM
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5,7,6,8 works for me too. I'm in the dark ages, still running solid core wires, without any negative effects.
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