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07-01-2014, 02:17 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Factory 5 mk4 445 FE
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BlueThunder heads and Cobra side pipes
I finally got me a FE motor... I chickened out on building my own. I will post pictures in another thread.... I did get it off the FE forum
Anyway.. it has Blue Thunder heads and I have been told that Cobra 4 into 4 headers wont work because of the raised ports. Is this true, if so amd I screwed. I guess the Factory 5 cut outs are the same placement as everybody elses.
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07-01-2014, 02:45 PM
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Screwed? No.
But you will need custom headers done.
Congrats on the engine.
Post some build specs.
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PS: I hate to say I told you so... but... see post #5
Sorry you missed it...
Southern Automotive 428 engine
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07-01-2014, 05:02 PM
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exhaust ports
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Originally Posted by RACERAL
I finally got me a FE motor... I chickened out on building my own. I will post pictures in another thread.... I did get it off the FE forum
Anyway.. it has Blue Thunder heads and I have been told that Cobra 4 into 4 headers wont work because of the raised ports. Is this true, if so amd I screwed. I guess the Factory 5 cut outs are the same placement as everybody elses.
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It is only about .4" maybe you can modify the headers
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07-01-2014, 06:15 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX4000, 427
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RACERAL
.. it has Blue Thunder heads and I have been told that Cobra 4 into 4 headers wont work because of the raised ports. .
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probably right, it won't work without modifications, but hey, its only money. I have a similar set of Dove HR raised exhaust port heads that are waiting for an application.
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07-01-2014, 06:28 PM
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If its .400 of an inch higher... how many people would notice if you dremel out the cuts upward by that much. Heck, thats less then 1/2 inch.
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07-05-2014, 09:12 AM
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I am now being told that the steering shaft may be in the way also...
Options I am thinking of..
Taking a standard set of headers and using a sawzall, cut about 80% through the pipes right at the header flange, bend the pipes down whatever amount needed. the take some pipe and cut "wedges" and weld back in to where I made the cuts.... clear as mud uh...
I did email Stainless Steel headers to see what they said.
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07-05-2014, 12:01 PM
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This is one reason we do not use the Blue Thunder heads in this application. The builder should have known that this would have been a problem for you. I have told Blue Thunder they needed a head with a stock exhaust location. Something that needs to be considered when designing an engine for a customer that can save a lot of trouble down the road. The performance difference if any is sure not worth the trouble.
Good luck, Keith
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07-08-2014, 07:08 PM
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This is one reason we do not use the Blue Thunder heads in this application. ......................The performance difference if any is sure not worth the trouble.
Good luck, Keith
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Dove told me that the high exhaust ports really only benefit in all out normally aspirated, or supercharged applications.
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07-08-2014, 07:16 PM
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Once upon a time, I used a set of aftermarket heads with raised exhaust ports, but fortunately I'm (was) located near a custom header & exhaust shop, which was operated separately (but next to) by an employee of Sanderson Headers in South San Francisco.
I thought it was money well spent anyway. "Mass produced" headers aren't always well-made.
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07-25-2014, 01:59 PM
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I bought the motor already built and this was what was on it.Anyway... after I get the kit at home and motor in it... I will get some headers made..
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07-25-2014, 02:24 PM
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Al ... Calvin Elston is just South of Charlotte ( Monroe ) and fabricates custom exhausts for everyone from the dirt boys to NASCAR . Did a friend of mine`s Roush Trans Am cars from scratch and put merged collectors and Coast racing mufflers on mine ( 5 lbs each ) .
His web site is Elston Exhaust ... superb work , but expensive , or maybe not if it works and looks professional . He also posts occasionally on Speedtalk in the members only section . If interested , I have his phone number .
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07-25-2014, 02:49 PM
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Lower the engine .4"
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08-04-2014, 11:59 AM
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Thanks Bobcat... good info. I have connections in that area.
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08-05-2014, 07:11 AM
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Trade the heads for some CNC'd Eboks.
BarryR may be interested in the BTs. He's ate-up with that Blue Thunder stuff.  
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