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Old 07-08-2015, 12:55 PM
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I think it was the statement above where you said you've seen "a few" built, that thew some of us off.
I have seen them built, they are on the website, Brent B has one on there that could pull a building, a big big building, and Blairs fe made some record power, a guy here in az has an iron block I did see in person and it looks like the rest of them, next to a pond block, don't know how it is to machine but BBM says he will offer them cheaper than most blocks..
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Old 07-08-2015, 01:18 PM
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This thread is turning into a BBM.
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Old 07-08-2015, 01:30 PM
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They seem to be making some good stuff, no problem here promoting their goods, if it helps out prospective buyers, more power, that's what is awesome about this place, cant wait to see some more from SIDE OILER also...
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Old 07-08-2015, 03:42 PM
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From I've gathered here and on the FE forums over the years, by the time all the machining is done on all these blocks (some more than others), their prices equalize a bit.
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Old 07-08-2015, 03:58 PM
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From I've gathered here and on the FE forums over the years, by the time all the machining is done on all these blocks (some more than others), their prices equalize a bit.
Of course the builder completely ignores the fact that you might be dropping that POS FE motor in to a six figure toy....
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Old 07-08-2015, 04:13 PM
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Of course the builder completely ignores the fact that you might be dropping that POS FE motor in to a six figure toy....
Says the guy with a glorified 390 (faux FE, er, 428) to one who has a twin-Paxton supercharged all alloy 482 (or whatever ci).

Can we talk about POS FE's now?
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Old 07-08-2015, 04:18 PM
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Says the guy with a glorified 390 (faux FE, er, 428) to one who has a twin-Paxton supercharged all alloy 482 (or whatever ci).

Can we talk about POS FE's now?
Well that's my point. I would charge Rodney 30% more than most of the guys over on FordFE.com just because I know he could afford it.
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Old 07-08-2015, 04:22 PM
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Well that's my point. I would charge Rodney 30% more than most of the guys over on FordFE.com just because I know he could afford it.
I know what your point is, but I wanted you to realize that POS FE is relative. Not all POS FE's are created equal.
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Old 07-08-2015, 04:24 PM
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I know what your point is, but I wanted you to realize that POS FE is relative. Not all POS FE's are created equal.
Well, I suppose that's right... some FEs are POSier than others.
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Old 07-08-2015, 05:23 PM
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Of course the builder completely ignores the fact that you might be dropping that POS FE motor in to a six figure toy....
Are you saying that FE builders have a different price for a Rachero FE vs a nice fakey-do Cobra?
Next time, I'm saying it's going into a Squire Wagon!
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Are you saying that FE builders have a different price for a Rachero FE vs a nice fakey-do Cobra?
Next time, I'm saying it's going into a Squire Wagon!
Well, probably not Lykins. He'd probably still charge a fair price even if he saw a trail of C-Notes coming out of your pocket and heading off in to the sunset.
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Are you saying that FE builders have a different price for a Rachero FE vs a nice fakey-do Cobra?
Next time, I'm saying it's going into a Squire Wagon!
I have reasons why I believe Patrick is wrong, although I always count myself as a cynic.

1. How many different types of cars are these $20,000 +/- all aluminum FE's being dropped into? And how many are Ranchero or Country Squire station wagons? Generally, I think your all-alloy FE buyer is bound to be an ERA, Kirkham or CSX buyer. Maybe a high dollar Mustang or two. So, duh, it's going into a Cobra.

2. They still must remain competitively-priced amongst themselves in order stay in business.
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I have reasons why I believe Patrick is wrong, although I always count myself as a cynic.

1. How many different types of cars are these $20,000 +/- all aluminum FE's being dropped into? And how many are Ranchero or Country Squire station wagons? Generally, I think your all-alloy FE buyer is bound to be an ERA, Kirkham or CSX buyer. Maybe a high dollar Mustang or two. So, duh, it's going into a Cobra.

2. They still must remain competitively-priced amongst themselves in order stay in business.
Agreed.
I think that $20k price is a good baseline and just go up from there depending on how pretty and how special you want it. And once you are in that deep, unless you are building something special you aren't going to put it in one of the cars we see for sale all the time for $35-40k, IMHO
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Agreed.
I think that $20k price is a good baseline and just go up from there depending on how pretty and how special you want it. And once you are in that deep, unless you are building something special you aren't going to put it in one of the cars we see for sale all the time for $35-40k, IMHO
Well that sounds like you agree with me.
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Well that sounds like you agree with me.
On this point it would appear so.
On twin rollbars and SFT's, no.
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Patrick,

I was only meaning that the water pump and block had the Shelby stamp on them, not that they were "orginal" in any way.

In regard to $20K FE's I tend to think they go in Cobras most often and Mustangs occasionaly as said before. If weight is not the concern, seems like Ford owners go to the 429/460/514 and so on route.

Mine tends to have a nice lopey idle and never sees the 5500 rpm mark. 5k rpm is about all I have the kohunas for as things at that RPM happen very fast.

My block was earlier in the series (597) but it was well built. No issues thus far.

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North, if you cast it wrong they chop off your head ,so it has to be perfect...
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