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04-02-2016, 07:33 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: SoCal,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
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Based on your pics, looks like the block is a hyd cam block. Do you know if the proper steps were taken to accept a solid cam? You indicated that you have a solid cam in it.
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04-02-2016, 07:40 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernica
Based on your pics, looks like the block is a hyd cam block. Do you know if the proper steps were taken to accept a solid cam? You indicated that you have a solid cam in it.
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My galleries were plugged for my solid cam, but a lot of builders like to leave them open for the lubrication -- even with plain old solid lifters.
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04-02-2016, 08:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernica
Based on your pics, looks like the block is a hyd cam block. Do you know if the proper steps were taken to accept a solid cam? You indicated that you have a solid cam in it.
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I could be incorrect re solid cam, paperwork indicates the cam type as mechanical/solid type profile, refer photo. The cam was reprofiled to compensate for the drop in compression to give similar performance figures. The engine builder is well known in the competition engine building.
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04-02-2016, 08:34 PM
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Jebus005, par for the course around here, a lot of questions on how it was built but not one answering your question. Seems a '66 427 SO in reasonably good shape can go for $6,500 to $10,500. I would value yours toward the high end of that range as it seems to be in pretty good shape. That motor discussed here: 427 Side Oiler, good price?
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04-02-2016, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe's Garage
Jebus005, par for the course around here, a lot of questions on how it was built but not one answering your question.
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Looks like a great engine, so don't get me wrong...
Seems to me that what it really is and how it is built is important to anyone putting a value on one.
For comparison, show me an NOS 427/425 complete with NASCAR etc and compare it to a 427 re-purposed short block with unknown origin and 428 parts on it. Big difference in my mind, at least.
I'm sure someone will correct me.
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04-03-2016, 05:34 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2009
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA Street Roadster #782 with 459 cu in FE KC engine, toploader, 3.31
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Originally Posted by Jebus005
I could be incorrect re solid cam, paperwork indicates the cam type as mechanical/solid type profile, refer photo. The cam was reprofiled to compensate for the drop in compression to give similar performance figures. The engine builder is well known in the competition engine building.
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That looks like a solid lifter flat tappet cam to me with the specified valve lash.
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04-03-2016, 05:43 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA Street Roadster #782 with 459 cu in FE KC engine, toploader, 3.31
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I remember a kid back in high school. He had a Citroen, or something. Damned if one day he didn't start it up and the darn engine was running backwards. Yep, strange but true.
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Back in 1980 when I was working on a dam construction project in SE Kansas (pretty much small Townsville) and I bought a SAAB Turbo in Tulsa. Not many of those back-ward mounted engine jobbers in SE Kansas. First year I took it in for annual inspection to renew the license, I took it to a garage and was letting them look it over as I waited inside. A little while later the mechanic comes in with a puzzled look and says to me - One of the things I'm supposed to check off is the condition of the fan belts. But your car doesn't seem to have any and I can't figure out what's up with that. So I took him out and pointed to the back of the engine near the firewall - voila - fan belts. He was relieved.
Looks like a nice engine for a project - even if it did start life as a marine engine.
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04-03-2016, 06:19 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2004
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Cobra Make, Engine: E-M 427 Top Oiler stroked to 482 by KC, Stage 2 heads, a Quikfuel and Voila, 640 hp
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If these are new pistons, has the block been bored or just cleaned up ? If it's been bored, how much ? .015 over is good .030 not so much. Does it have a rebuild left in it? That's a major selling point.
Tim
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04-03-2016, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 55312
If these are new pistons, has the block been bored or just cleaned up ? If it's been bored, how much ? .015 over is good .030 not so much. Does it have a rebuild left in it? That's a major selling point.
Tim
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Thanks guys for all the comments, great info. I can see JE 314F pistons p/n 162116 have been installed, the web site shows this part number as (J34) 427 BBF inverted dome at 0.017 oversize. In the papers from the rebuilder it appears he did the recommended sonic test on all cylinders x 4 positions.
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04-03-2016, 09:49 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Former owner of Long Live the Bow tie Contemporary #102 427 Chevy .30 over Merlin heads 11to1, TBI injection
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DanEC
Back in 1980 when I was working on a dam construction project in SE Kansas (pretty much small Townsville) and I bought a SAAB Turbo in Tulsa. Not many of those back-ward mounted engine jobbers in SE Kansas. First year I took it in for annual inspection to renew the license, I took it to a garage and was letting them look it over as I waited inside. A little while later the mechanic comes in with a puzzled look and says to me - One of the things I'm supposed to check off is the condition of the fan belts. But your car doesn't seem to have any and I can't figure out what's up with that. So I took him out and pointed to the back of the engine near the firewall - voila - fan belts. He was relieved.
Looks like a nice engine for a project - even if it did start life as a marine engine.
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04-04-2016, 05:16 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA Street Roadster #782 with 459 cu in FE KC engine, toploader, 3.31
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Yep - that was the start of my 10-year experiment with European cars. I think it was the best one and it sort of went downhill from there.
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