Keith Craft Inc.- We service what we sell!!! Check out our Cobra engines!!! We build high performance racing engines and components for the fast pace strip racing industry as well as daily drivers who want to be FIRST!!!

FE Forums sponsored by Keith Craft Inc.


Go Back   Club Cobra > Engine Building, Tuning, and Induction > FE TALK

Welcome to Club Cobra!  The World's largest non biased Shelby Cobra related site!

  •  » Representation from nearly all Cobra/Daytona/GT40 manufacturers
  •  » Help from all over the world for your questions
  •  » Build logs for you and all members
  •  » Blogs
  •  » Image Gallery
  •  » Many thousands of members and nearly 1 million posts! 

YES! I want to register an account for free right now!  p.s.: For registered members this ad will NOT show

Nevada Classics
Keith Craft Racing
Main Menu
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
Keith Craft Racing
MMG Superformance
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
Keith Craft Racing
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
November 2024
S M T W T F S
          1 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30

Kirkham Motorsports

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 01-26-2002, 04:00 PM
Dennis Mosley's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Houston, TX
Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary CCX33849 (currently 460)
Posts: 865
Not Ranked     
Default Lakewood Headache

I am using a Lakewood bellhousing and when I built the Cobra, almost 2 years ago, I did not know any better and figured that since the bellhousing was made for the FE engine and when I sat it on the dowels all the holes lined up, that I just needed to bolt up and go. Well as many of you know that is not how it works.

After destroying a ring gear on the fly wheel and at least 3 gears on my starter, I went through the process of replacing the ring gear gear and trying to get a measurement to see how to adjust the bellhousing. Try as I may, I just could not figure it out. My dial indicator does not fit well in the bell housing so I can not adjust it at a 90 degree to the opening.

I also bolted up the starter to see how it was contacting the flywheel and the teeth are not fully engageing because the starter it too far off to the right...when looking at the rear of the engine.

This whole thing is giving me a big headache. So much so, I took put the engine in the back of my blazer today and took it to a local shop that builds race cars ( and has helped me countless times before). After a conversation on the pains of getting Lakewoods perfect, I came to the conclusion that this was just too much of a pain. They showed me a "scatter Blanket" that they use sometimes and offered to order one for me if I wanted. I believe that these are approved for racing (which I do not do) or they would not use them. I would have to check to be sure before I bought one as I do like having my feet at the end of my legs.

The plan would be to replace my Lakewood with a stock bellhousing so may starter and everything else would be in the correct place. Use the " scatter Blanket" for the added security and go on with my Cobra driving.

Has anyone used one of these blankets? Will the same spacer I use on my Lakewood with my Tremec bolt up to the stock bell housing. Has anyone had this (lakewood alignment problem) happen to them. Will the stock bellhousing solve my alignment problems?
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 01-26-2002, 08:56 PM
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 427 SO
Posts: 1,126
Not Ranked     
Default

Dennis, I have had no problems with my Lakewood (other than originally aligning the &%^$#@ bellhousing!), but it's only been 3 months, too. The cast/machined factory housing should solve your problem, and for street use, the blanket seems like a suitable and very good alternative to the scattershield. I've heard good things about them over the years...anyone else heard (or experienced) good or bad?
For what it's worth, I borrowed an articulated magnetic stand, mounted it to my flywheel, and set the indicator to read against the transmission input hole, rolled the motor over, tapped on the housing, rolled it some more (and tapped, and rolled, and tapped, and...well you get it). Royal pain, but finally got it to about 0.002" total runout. You're welcome to use my setup if you want.
__________________
Ken
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 01-27-2002, 08:07 AM
Dennis Mosley's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Houston, TX
Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary CCX33849 (currently 460)
Posts: 865
Not Ranked     
Default

Ken,

What part of town do you live in? I may need to see what you used and give it another try. My stock bellhousing won't be here for 3 or 4 days.

I live near Sugarland.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 01-27-2002, 08:56 AM
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 427 SO
Posts: 1,126
Not Ranked     
Default

Dennis, you have mail...call me @ 713/301-1492. I'm in the Copperfield area...20 miles north of you on Hwy 6
__________________
Ken
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 01-28-2002, 05:47 PM
kountzecobra's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Kountze, TX
Cobra Make, Engine: CMC, 351 Cleveland, Dual Quads, C6
Posts: 1,377
Not Ranked     
Default

Dennis, I have used safety blankets in the past, but only on automatic transmissions. Luckily, I have never put one to the test. Chances of blowing up a clutch behind a 428 is pretty close to Nil- With 3.98" stroke, the bottom end will come apart first. Really, the alignment needs to be checked with a stock bellhousing also, not just a Lakewood. The Lakewood housings bolt holes are drilled a touch oversize to allow alignment adjustment. Usually, starter misalignment is not a problem. Hope I can help. Later, David Shelton.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 02-08-2002, 03:16 PM
Dennis Mosley's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Mar 1999
Location: Houston, TX
Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary CCX33849 (currently 460)
Posts: 865
Not Ranked     
Default

Thanks to Steve Rau the bell housing got aligned. It took us more hrs that I would like to admit ( and a few more than I think Steve planned for) but at least it's done!

Thanks to Paul Risch for the use of his garage until 3am this morning.

Thanks to Ken Smith, for encouragement on this project and a good lunch.

Thanks to Chad and Scott for helping me pull that beast of a motor out of the Car.

If I forgot anyone I'm sorry. It's great to have all the great Houston Cobra guys around.
__________________
The future is no place, to place your better days....
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 02-08-2002, 03:57 PM
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery

 
Join Date: Feb 1999
Location: New Britain, CT,
Posts: 1,416
Not Ranked     
Default

We have used Lakewoods on FE engines for years. Up until a few years ago, they frequently required offset dowels. The quality now is much improved, alignment-wise, and we rarely need the fix anymore. And we still check every one...
__________________
Bob Putnam
-E.R.A.-

Please address parts inquiries to eraparts@sbcglobal.net
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 08:19 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: CC Policy