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09-16-2002, 06:11 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Calgary,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Naf/Arntz on a Shell Valley frame. 351 C Boss
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Big block or small block?
Okay,what do I do. I have a 289 on a 427 chassis. Big block 427 or small block 351w bored to 427. Thanks folks,appreciate the suggestions.
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09-16-2002, 06:45 PM
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You will need the Big Block if you want to do 198. Do not attemp this with a sb as it will only get you to 196. Hope this helps. 
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09-16-2002, 07:07 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Sugar Land,
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Cobra Make, Engine: I had lots of little Cobras until Oscar the house thief stole all of them
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If possible go for a test drive/ride in both. I think you will come away saying Big Block.
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09-16-2002, 07:47 PM
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Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Bay Area,
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Cobra Make, Engine: What Cobra?
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Oh no YOU don't.
Cranky behave!Please!!
BB of course.
TURK
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09-16-2002, 08:26 PM
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The longest build.....
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Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Midwest, USA,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Mid-States, 428 Police Interceptor, TKO 5 speed, Jaguar rearend, Trigos, and Guardsman Blue!!!
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I second Turks' motion.
Big Block FE.
Cheers,
BC
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09-16-2002, 08:46 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: San Diego,
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FE 427
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09-16-2002, 08:54 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: St. Louis, Missouri,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPO 2715
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If I remember....
I seem to recall my SB wacking someones BB FE motor on a chassis dyno....(sorry Turk  ) at the Spring Fling.
The good news is I have the proper advance, and now my Performance Engineering 418 makes 450 lbft max at the rear wheels. More than before.....hehehehehehe
Who needs a Big Block?
I'm thinking of building a Dove block based SB with the Arao 32 valve heads, what kind of ponies would that make? And it would still hang on in the fade away corners, rather than a unwilling BB motor.....
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09-17-2002, 04:57 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Galion,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 427FE (sold & missed)
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I can't believe anyone would even consider putting a SB in a cobra........especially you Eric. You seem like a BB type of guy
Brian
p.s. BIG BLOCKS RULE!!!!!! |
09-17-2002, 07:35 AM
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BIG BLOCK, of course
If you're going to build an FE, make it an aluminum FE with stacked EFI injection.
Weight of a SB
Reliability of EFI
Torque and power of a BB
Bragging rights
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09-17-2002, 08:09 AM
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Great Asp
We'll see you again next year I am sure at the DVSFIII, won't we?
Then we'll talk.
TURK
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09-17-2002, 08:13 AM
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Location: 2555 west bluff fresno, ca.,usa,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA535 with 427FE s.o.& toploader
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BB aluminum Shelby punch to 500c.i. with big nitrous bottle in the boot... see Mark Donuhue's
quote on horsepower
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Need more horsepower, raki and where in the hell did The REDHEAD go off to?
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09-17-2002, 08:44 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Royersford,
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Cobra Make, Engine: FFR2479K, 351W yellow/black stripes
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Bnewell,
You can't imagine anyone putting a small block in a Cobra? Well, obviously 'ol CS (no matter what we think of him now) imagined it. I think the 260 and 289 Cobras were pretty sucessful cars. The 302 is even bigger than those motors.
I vote small block. Yes, I freely admit I couldn't have afforded a BB if I wanted one. But I like the light weight, price of parts and ease of upgrade of the small block.
Cranky, are you going to count the number of BBs up at Watkins Glen? Think you might need a calculator.  
Steve
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No, it ain't "real", but it's real fast....
Some people choose to rattle their windows with stereos and speakers... I choose to rattle windows with my right foot.
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09-17-2002, 08:49 AM
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Bnewell,
You can't imagine anyone putting a small block in a Cobra? Well, obviously 'ol CS (no matter what we think of him now) imagined it. I think the 260 and 289 Cobras were pretty sucessful cars. The 302 is even bigger than those motors.
I vote small block. Yes, I freely admit I couldn't have afforded a BB if I wanted one. But I like the light weight, price of parts and ease of upgrade of the small block.
Cranky, are you going to count the number of BBs up at Watkins Glen? Think you might need a calculator.
Steve
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No, it ain't "real", but it's real fast....
Some people choose to rattle their windows with stereos and speakers... I choose to rattle windows with my right foot.
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09-17-2002, 09:12 AM
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SB
Lets see, same horsepower (usable).
SB lighter
Less cooling problems
Don't need asbestos driving shoes.
Wife doesn't need asbestos high heels.
I vote SB
JohnBgood
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09-17-2002, 09:57 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2001
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 427FE (sold & missed)
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Klayfish ~ I knew that comment would stir it up And if I'm not mistaken, I believe the SB won most of the races.......so no argument there. I guess my "BIGGER IS BETTER" thinking got the best of me!!!!
Brian
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09-17-2002, 11:44 AM
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Location: Chicago, Oscar winner, my kind of town,
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Like there are FAQ sections, there should be FGA sections or Icons or acronyms too:
1) What is your budget?
2) What is your intended use?
3) What is your involvement in the build and ongoing maintenance of this engine going to be?
1)The Windsor would be cheaper.
2)Either engine can weigh the same (with substitution of aluminum parts for iron on the FE), so each could handle the same, and they both displace 427 cu inches. UNLESS, you plan on going for more displacement at some future time, then 427 is pretty much max on the Windsor.
3) You will find more people and shops that are familiar with the Windsor as far as repairs and parts go.
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09-17-2002, 12:30 PM
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I agree with sizzler. Define your usage parameters and build it to that. Small or Big, it is what makes YOU happy that is most important. It is your car and you can put anything you want in it. You could really upset some people and go with something unconventional like a hemi, or big buick, or even a late model OHC engine. Just make sure it is what will fit your needs.
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09-17-2002, 12:47 PM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Fresno,
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 184/482ci Shelby
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Cranky
You...oh never mind. Very funny.
BB or SB?
Whatever makes you feel good--they'll both work. If you're going to do any autocrossing or track stuff--then use a SB or at least use an aluminum BB. I personally think a SB would work best for that purpose. If you're building a street car and want some flash--go BB. I'll let you know about alum BBs and autocrossing/track use in about 7 or 8 months, but I doubt my opinion will change.
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09-17-2002, 01:08 PM
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Location: Southwest,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shell Valley, Mopar thingy (small block of course)
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Superman,
I looked into the hemi thing. Iron block, they don't call it the elephant motor just for the motor mounts. Aluminum would be great, but you would have to go West Coast to get one to fit with those big heads.
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09-17-2002, 02:04 PM
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A SOHC 427 is as wide as a hemi, and I have done work on a contemporary with a SOHC in it. So if one really wanted too they could put a mopar up front. Recommend against it though.
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