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10-02-2006, 06:39 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Butler Racing/427 side oiler
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This would look good in my car:)
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10-02-2006, 06:54 PM
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Will it fit under the stock 427 Cobra hood scoop?
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55 mph is unsafe at any speed. Huh?
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10-02-2006, 08:04 PM
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That I would highly doubt ...but hey ..whats a hood worth?
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10-02-2006, 11:20 PM
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There are a few motors out there I just don't have a problem with seeing under the hood of a replica. THIS is surely one of them!
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10-03-2006, 12:17 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA 427 w/496 Side Oiler, roller, dual quads
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I'd buy it, but it's got those darned aluminum rods...
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10-03-2006, 05:21 AM
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I'm not very well informed about Cammer engines, but I thought they had a large chain assembly on the front to drive the overhead cams. This engine doesn't appear to have one. What am I missing?
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10-03-2006, 05:34 AM
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A well done example of raw HP!!!
Yes, it would look okay under your hood, but it would look even better under mine.
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10-03-2006, 06:01 AM
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Tommy, the front cover covers the chains. I think there was a manufacturer who also made a gear drive setup that eliminated the chain.
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10-03-2006, 06:51 AM
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I believe that Blykins is right. I have seen two with gear drives and they said the chains had a tendency to stretch just enough to throw off the timing after having been ran hard for a few times. I dont know if this is true or not and was just an excuse for them to have gear drives made.
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10-03-2006, 09:06 AM
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GUYS!! It does not appear to be a real CAMMER.
Read the song and dance.
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10-03-2006, 09:14 AM
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Well it appears to have the SOHC heads and they're definitely tunnel port pieces. The valve covers wouldn't fit on any other FE head.
I think what's throwing you off is that it says it's not a cammer block. I would take that to mean it wasn't an original NOS cammer block....but is probably a regular 427 block that has been drilled for the cammer heads.
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10-03-2006, 09:25 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blykins
Well it appears to have the SOHC heads and they're definitely tunnel port pieces. The valve covers wouldn't fit on any other FE head.
I think what's throwing you off is that it says it's not a cammer block. I would take that to mean it wasn't an original NOS cammer block....but is probably a regular 427 block that has been drilled for the cammer heads.
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A Continuation Cammer
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10-03-2006, 10:11 AM
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Say it aint so elgecko!
Certainly as good a replica as I've even seen!
So how are the valves actuated when these heads are used on a standard 427 block? Pushrods?
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10-03-2006, 10:26 AM
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Over 10 grand is a lot of money for a maybe/maybe not cammer....would imagine there has been a flurry of emails between bidders and seller before they bid like that....seems for that amount, you wouldn't be buying on ebay, sticking to a reliable/known builder
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10-03-2006, 10:33 AM
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Considering cammer's typically sell for better than $30 grand and it's not uncommon for a nicely built side oiler to sell for better than $10 grand, maybe the reserve price is 'reasonable' for a 'replica' cammer built on a side oiler block.
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10-03-2006, 11:11 AM
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Quote:
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Say it aint so elgecko!
Certainly as good a replica as I've even seen!
So how are the valves actuated when these heads are used on a standard 427 block? Pushrods?
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The "original" cammer block had oil drain-back holes in the rear. The differences didn't have anything to do with the valve train. Pond and Genesis blocks alread have the drain-back holes.. Other 427s can be modified, as this one evidently has.
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10-03-2006, 11:31 AM
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Ernie, I would imagine since the cam is not in the center of the block on a cammer, that pushrods would not be needed.
I can't remember off-hand, but I think the SOHC heads have rocker shafts and rocker arms like a regular FE. The shafts run parallel to the cam. I would like to know the answer to this myself....I know regular SOHC engines allow the cam lobe to push a follower which opens/closes the valve. However, since the cammer FE has rocker shafts, I can't really say how they work.....maybe the cam lobe itself lifts the rocker arm.
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10-03-2006, 11:41 AM
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A SOHC with modern gear set.
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10-03-2006, 11:45 AM
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SOHC with chain (chain is something like 6 feet long?).
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10-03-2006, 11:47 AM
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cammer
the motor is a cammer,it has correct timing cover,block is same as standard block with exception of drainbacks in back of deck surface,rockers run on overhead cams directly,distributor is being driver off idler behind timing cover,not mine but ive owned 6 of these
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