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11-26-2006, 04:49 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Crowley,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Findling 001 - starting scratch build
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rickster 1
Hello;
I love this picture on the 427 Cammer engine which Full Throttle AL . build .
I have read that this engine put out 625 Hp, I would like to duplicate this engine and put it into my Corba or my 1968 Mustang .
Was this engine special made ? Can I get parts and build one ect?
Rickster 1
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It CAN be done, but it will likely be an expensive project. Jim Dove bought
the cammer tooling from Ford after production ceased and has cast new
cammer heads in times past. I don't know if he plans to do any more, most
likely he would only do another run of them if the demand is there. Robert
Pond can supply a block with the oil return mods already done. Other bits
and pieces such as water pumps, camshaft blanks, camshaft drivetrain parts,
cam followers, front covers, etc. are generally available from assorted
vendors when they have sufficient orders to do a run of them. Dennis
at DSC Motorsport can probably point you in the right direction if you want
to do a cammer project.
....Fred
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11-26-2006, 06:09 PM
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The original chain drive was good for 8000 rpm, even higher. You gonna run your new SOHC to 8 plus? Maybe once or twice, maybe, but I wouldn't! I'd be scared to death something might break, might as well run the chain, certainly good enough for that 6000 rpm chip I'd put in.
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11-26-2006, 06:29 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Boynton Beach,
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Cobra Make, Engine: BDR Roadster ,427 R
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Mustang SOHC
Hi there,
There was a new Mustang on display at the Turkey Rod Run with a SOHC engine. From the sticker it appears to be a factory option from Ford.
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11-26-2006, 06:36 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Grand Rapids,
Mi
Cobra Make, Engine: Hurricane 427S/C, KC/Pond aluminum 427/482 SO, TKO 600
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Backdraft
Hi there,
There was a new Mustang on display at the Turkey Rod Run with a SOHC engine. From the sticker it appears to be a factory option from Ford.
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$60,000.00 option, on a $26,320.00 car!
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11-26-2006, 07:16 PM
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No charge for the rear spoiler though...
YIKES!!!!
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11-26-2006, 10:15 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Freedomia,,
Il
Cobra Make, Engine: Coupe,Blue w/white stripes SB; Roadster, Blue w/white stripes BB w/2-4s; SPF installer/Hot Rod-Custom Car builder
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Backdraft
Hi there,
There was a new Mustang on display at the Turkey Rod Run with a SOHC engine. From the sticker it appears to be a factory option from Ford.
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Very nice doctored window sticker,LOL. Since they refer to one model of the Mod motor as a SOHC, it is and option. My apprentice thought I was talking about the Mod motor when we were discussing the SOHC motor (the REAL 1 ) last week. He was really impressed when he knew what it was, young'uns, whatcha gonna do?
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11-28-2006, 06:42 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: milwaukee,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #726 427 SOHC
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Rickster, still thinking of building the Cammer?
Steve
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11-29-2006, 12:09 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Columbus,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Shell Valley- 390 FE, 4 speed toploader, 3.50's
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lineslinger
Rickster 1,
There are sources where you can acquire the components for a cammer build, but the numbers being thrown around are pretty accurate. one of my sources has a set of original aluminum heads...only 8 grand...bare of course, or he can set you up with a cast iron set for a little over 4 thousand. A properly machined block? New or original? He is modifying a Pond aluminum block right now for a cammer build, that is easily another 7 grand. Have you ever priced an original set of magnesium cammer valve covers?
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I seen some valve covers along with some other cammer parts. The valve covers had $1500 on them...on each one of them, and they werent sitting side by side. Are they $1500 for both, or each? I dunno but was afraid to ask. This was at an all Ford swap meet here in Columbus last Saturday.
Greg
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11-29-2006, 07:43 AM
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I read that sticker as having a 2004 date. How old is the car?
$60,000, that's a lot of bills paid.
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11-29-2006, 10:13 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Findling 001 - starting scratch build
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cammer option.....
Ford no longer has the tooling to produce SOHC FE's, imagine trying to make
something like that OBD II and emissions compliant! That particular Mustang
is probably a non-registered "trailer queen," it would probably leave the tail-pipe
sniffers at emissions inspection with a foul taste.
....Fred
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11-29-2006, 01:53 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Shreveport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX4083, NOS 427 SOHC, serial number 589. Dyno'd in 1967 at 629HP with single 4v 560 Holley. Now with 4 Webers.
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To clarify the SOHC piston issue earlier, here are the pistons and rods out of my cammer motor, #589, during re-build following 30 years sitting in a crate in someones garage, unopened:
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11-29-2006, 01:55 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2000
Location: Shreveport,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX4083, NOS 427 SOHC, serial number 589. Dyno'd in 1967 at 629HP with single 4v 560 Holley. Now with 4 Webers.
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Further pics of SOHC pistons/rods from 1965 Hot Rod article:
This same photo (with the rest of the Hot Rod article) can be found in my gallery and the pics can be blown up to be able to see detail and read the text.
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11-29-2006, 05:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blueovalfanatic
I seen some valve covers along with some other cammer parts. The valve covers had $1500 on them...on each one of them, and they werent sitting side by side. Are they $1500 for both, or each? I dunno but was afraid to ask. This was at an all Ford swap meet here in Columbus last Saturday.
Greg
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$400 for a pair of covers:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...m=150064341859
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11-30-2006, 09:06 AM
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Im sorry- what a moron I am. I just realized when looking at the ebay ad- they were boss 429 valve covers, not SOHC covers. Still doesnt justify $1500 for them, either one or both. Sorry for the mix-up. At any rate, those SOHC valve covers look nice, and I wouldnt be surprised if he got the $400 for 'em.
Greg
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11-30-2006, 12:09 PM
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Location: Freedomia,,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Coupe,Blue w/white stripes SB; Roadster, Blue w/white stripes BB w/2-4s; SPF installer/Hot Rod-Custom Car builder
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I'm glad I checked out that e-bay link...there may still be hope for me to get one together from newer parts.
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12-03-2006, 06:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Woodz428
I'm glad I checked out that e-bay link...there may still be hope for me to get one together from newer parts.
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How about a brand new set of aluminum SOHC heads for $5,000?
http://www.network54.com/Forum/74182...+January+2007.
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12-04-2006, 08:48 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: St. Louisville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: A&C 67 427 cobra SB
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It didn't say if that is bare heads or with valves and springs. Wish they would have posted some flow numbers. Must be pretty good for a mild street engine to put out 600 hp on pump gas.
At 2.5 times the cost of a set of good wedge heads, it is still going to get costly, by the time you get all the rest of the parts.
They have to pay for the investment of the molds and developement, before they make any money. Can they sell more at a lower price and make it up on volume? On an engine that was discontinued nearly 40 years ago, I don't know. I just know at $3000 complete it would be a no brainer yes for me over a wedge, as long as they didn't kill me on the other parts. At that price who wouldn't go hemi? They would have 95% of the FE head market, but how big is it?
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