427 casting picture

[Excaliber]

Got me, looks like a 6 on my pos monitor.

[FFR428]

LMAO!!!! Well it could be a a 6?? And looking closer at it I can see a 6...but also a slight space on the left side which I see as a 3?? Now I'm seeing both 6 and 3's LOL???? But that HP cast in there leads me back to 63 everytime???

G.

[Power Surge]

Looks like a 6 to me, but it could also be a 3. Then again, the E looks like a 5 to me .

[imagine2frolic]

SIDE OILERS, C5AE-D, C5AE-H C6AE-B,C6AE-D, and with hydralic lifters, C8AE-A, C8AE-B, C8AE-H

[496fe]

Jay,

It's used as a puller. I like it also.

I hope he lopped off the bottom of the bellhousing before installing the engine. It becomes the lowest part of the car if not trimmed.

Brian

[Anthony]

Originally Posted by FFR428

I'd ask to knock out a freeze plug to verify it has 427 cyl wall cores inside and drill bit test it. Some 406's were cast with 427 wall cores tho. So anything is possible. My C3AE-D 406 block was cast with one set of 427 wall cores on one side... and 406 cores on the other. .

If that's the case, you should probably knock out a freeze plug on both sides to do the drill bit test.

[avanti-176]

Okay,
After alot of questions he finally gave me a real answer. Here are the specs on the motor as he sent them to me.......

Ford 427 Medium Riser top oiler. Comes as a block, heads with rocker assemblies, crank, rods, pistons, cam, flywheel, water pump and oil pump. No other parts available. This engine has a 428 CJ crank and the block is .030 over. This makes 454 cubic inches and computer dyno was at 605hp. (trying to find the print out for the torque #s). The history of this engine is. It was originally built for 4x4 pull competitions. It was in a country modified whillys jeep. The engine came apart on a pull when the driveline broke and the whole thing was rebuilt with new parts. The block required number 2 to be sleeved and 6 had marks in the bottom that were determined to be acceptable. After the engine was rebuilt it began bending push rods. It turned out to be the increased cam lift. We went from a .640 lift to a .644 and that extra .004 at 7500 rpm was enough to kiss valves on pistons. I pulled it down to inspect for any damage to rotating assembly and found none. I decided not to continue pulling and the engine went under wraps. It has been there for 5 years now. I have moved it from my old shop to a storage unit and now it’s in my new shop. In the moving it acquired some surface rust. It is only surface rust and will cause no harm to the components. Below are the specs on the parts.

Block= 427 top oiler block # HP 31 \ C3AE \ 051-U bored .030 over

Heads= Medium Riser # C5AE-F

Crank= 428 CJ # 1U turned .010 rods and .010 mains

Rods= #C7AE

Pistons= Arias 13 to 1

Cam= Schneider solid lifter .644 lift 320 duration (no lifters included)

.... He was originally asking $2000 for it when I first contacted him but has since decided it is worth $2500 since he found the flywheel

Seems a little steep to me for a Top oiler that has been sleeved and may or may not have more damage. Pistons are usless to me also, so I believe my search will continue since I do not feel like paying to have it shipped all the way across the country only to find out it needs another sleeve or two.

I appreciate everyones help and input.

Dan

[Scufty]

Originally Posted by imagine2frolic

SIDE OILERS, C5AE-D, C5AE-H C6AE-B,C6AE-D, and with hydralic lifters, C8AE-A, C8AE-B, C8AE-H

where do you find these csting numbers ..I cant seem to find them on mine

[Excaliber]

Scufty, it's likely a 'service block', 1968 or later. Those did not come with CAEX type casting numbers. There is a series of number, letters and dashs\dots located around the oil filter area of the block. Some help here guys, I forget the exact location. The numbers are small and hard to read as well as difficult to interpret without help (which you should find in abundance around here)!

Most likely being a 'service block' it also 'drilled' to accept hydraulic lifters. The original side oilers (first generation) accepted ONLY solid lifters.

[Scufty]

THANK YOU EXCALIBER..Finally
what would a "service block" mean exactly

[Power Surge]

Originally Posted by Scufty

THANK YOU EXCALIBER..Finally
what would a "service block" mean exactly

That means it's an over the counter replacement block, not a block that came in a car.

[Excaliber]

...and for the anal retentive numbers kind of guy I offer this...

My friend has a date coded side oiler, 1965, that would be a 'real' and 'original' block. I have the service block, you know, a 'continuation' block. Wish mine was date coded like his.