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07-30-2007, 09:05 AM
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AWESOME!! Now a question: Can someone explain that intake manifold to me?
Thanks
Bill D
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07-30-2007, 11:14 AM
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Yea, why do they have pushrod clearance holes?
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07-30-2007, 11:30 AM
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Will the intake fit on standard FE heads of any kind or ONLY the SOHC?
That is a strange adapter on top of the intake pictured above. Really tiny Webers, inline carbs, fuel injection, blower? WHAT??
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07-30-2007, 11:35 AM
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These pictures are of just standard 427 blocks and intakes. What are all those SOHC heads rejects? You said they just made their first new and improved castings were are they? Where are the pictures of them? Raw castings that they will be cutting open to inspect the cast quality.
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07-30-2007, 11:35 AM
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They are obviously for standard FE applications.
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07-30-2007, 11:40 AM
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So whats up with THIS intake, obviously a SOHC application. Granted the push rod intakes are standard FE.
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07-30-2007, 11:45 AM
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Looks like a blower intake to me.
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07-30-2007, 11:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chuckbrandt
Looks like a blower intake to me.
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That would be my guess also.
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07-30-2007, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Excaliber
So whats up with THIS intake, obviously a SOHC application. Granted the push rod intakes are standard FE.
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That looks to be an adapter to run a 6-71 or 8-71 on a SOHC 2x4 carb intake.
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07-30-2007, 01:42 PM
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Yes, that makes sense. When I look closer, I see the 2x4 manifold below that adapter. Very good observation Sal. Thanks
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07-30-2007, 01:53 PM
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It's modular
Actually you guys are missing a couple of pictures that were posted elsewhere. It's a modular intake you can bolt different tops onto.
Chuck
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07-30-2007, 02:29 PM
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Sohc stuff
Hello guys. Ron, thanks for posting those pictures. There are still a few to come, and I was waiting to comment on them until they were all posted. I will run through the pictures posted and add comments. The first picture is of all the Dove components assembeled, to give you an overview of what it will look like. There are a few more pictures that show the intake better. The intake looks like a tunnelwedge to a certain extent, it is a Ford xe casting. The tops are interchangable, the one pictured is for a blower setup. There is another picture that shows it with no top, and also one that shows the dual quad adaptor that will come with the kit. This is a SOHC only piece, no pushrod holes. The next few pictures show top end stuff. The rockers are beefy mothers, they should be pretty much unbreakable. They will come fully assembled, with the rollers and adjusters. The cams come semi-machined, as shown. They will need to have the lobes ground, and heat treated. Crane is a good place to go for this, they have over 20 profile for the SOHC motor. The round cylinders next to the cams are the rocker spacers. They will be split, and use e-clips to retain them. A close-up of the timing cover snuck in there next. The timing cover will be plain, with just a Ford casting number. No more Dove logos anywhere.
Next a few shots of the Dove block. People had stated they had never seen a Dove block, so here it is. The pan rails and webs are very thick, so are the decks. The SOHC version will look identical, just less machining. No reason to machine the lifter bores, or the rear cam bores on a SOHC motor. It will have the drainback holes for the heads.
Next is a pile of SOHC heads with some wedge stuff hanging around. A few are finish machined old castings, and a few of the new raw castings. They are changing the casting process to get a higher yield of good castings. They currently get around a 75% yield of good stuff. The bad part is that often you can't see the flaws until it is completly machined, which is a waste of time and money. The new raw castings look much better. The molds are filling better with no obvious external flaws. They are going to section a few, to check for cross section thickness. If it looks good, they will machine some, and see what they look like. Time will tell, but we are deffinately going in the right direction. I think it will be about 6 months before finished kits start rolling out. Next a few wedge blocks and a pile of SOHC cams.
Chuck Brandt, I set you an email. Did you get it?
Dang, you guys are good. As I am writing this, I see on my laptop Chuck has posted more pictures of the intake. Thanks.
Paul
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07-30-2007, 02:39 PM
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Paul - I haven't gotten an e-mail from you yet. try chuck < at > chuckbrandt.com
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07-30-2007, 02:50 PM
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I sent it again. If it doesn't go through, email me at ppcsolomon <at> hotmail.com
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08-03-2007, 08:48 AM
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is going with a modular and non traditional, will it affect the resale value..kind of like putting a chevy in it is like not even putting an angine in it kinda thing?
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08-03-2007, 08:55 AM
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Not a Mod motor
I meant that the intake manifold is of a modular design, allowing you to put on different tops.
The engine is a replica of the 1965 Ford FE SOHC engine that was banned in NASCAR and cleaned up in drag racing.
Technically it was never installed in a cobra by shelby that I'm aware of, but is still pretty darn cool, and period appropriate.
Chuck
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08-03-2007, 09:01 AM
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SOHC in Cobra
In general if done correctly it should increase the value, but you will have a smaller audience. Putting a modular in will probably not accomplish the same thing.
You can liken this to putting a set of webers on a 427 cobra, if done correctly it should increase the value but the audience will be smaller.
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08-03-2007, 09:39 AM
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This is "THE" Ford engine. The 427 side oiler is nice, but can't touch the SOHC. It is the only engine that had a chance at beating a 426 HEMI in competition. I would jump at the chance to get this beast in my car if I had the bucks.-John
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08-03-2007, 09:55 AM
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what kind of power are we talkingabout here/ 600hprw 600 torque?
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08-03-2007, 10:22 AM
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The only solution I could come up with was a cammer with webers:
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