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09-25-2008, 09:30 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Wayne,
NJ
Cobra Make, Engine: Contemporary 482 all aluminum Tunnelport Self built and owned since 1980 frame#0000017 and owner of frame CCX 33961 looking for an FIA body to go with it
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How can this be done? 428 stroker to 482
Has anyone seen these ads and how can he do what he claims to 428 blocks. He also uses 2.25/1.75 valves on the 470ci block
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/482-F...spagenameZWDVW
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/470-F...spagenameZWDVW
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09-25-2008, 10:07 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Louisville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: I'm Cobra-less!
Posts: 9,417
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I posted a response to a thread about this guy in the Lounge a couple weeks back.
As for 428-->482, I'm not sure how he's getting there. With a 4.160" bore, he would need a 4.43 stroke to get to 482.
He may be able to put engines together, but he's not an engine builder.
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09-25-2008, 10:59 AM
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Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Carlsbad,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2932 with 438 Lykins Motorsports engine. Previous owner of FFR 5452.
Posts: 2,616
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Easy, just switch the last two numbers.
Bingo, 482. Why so hard?  |
09-26-2008, 07:24 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Fairfield,
CT
Cobra Make, Engine: HM-2027 / 427 SO
Posts: 815
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09-26-2008, 09:19 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Yorba Linda,
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If I'm not mistaken, the 428 service block had thicker cylinder walls. I think that's why he makes it clear that these are SERVICE blocks. A number of stroker kits give the FE a 4.250 stroke. 4.250 X 4.250 = 482 CID. The new Genesis, Pond, Shelby etc can be bored out to 4.310" safely. My 496 is 4.250 X 4.310"
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09-26-2008, 09:37 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #698 428 Toploader
Posts: 292
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Why are guys knocking these engines? Has anyone had bad results or is it just because they are soo much cheaper then the engine builders on this site charge?
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09-27-2008, 06:14 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Fairfield,
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Cobra Make, Engine: HM-2027 / 427 SO
Posts: 815
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Service blocks are no thicker than production blocks cyl wall wise.
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09-27-2008, 06:19 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Louisville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: I'm Cobra-less!
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No 428 block will go to 4.250, or even 4.230 for that matter. A 4.250 x 4.250 is meant to start with a 427 block or an aftermarket block.
I have no clue how he's getting to 482, unless it's with a custom billet crankshaft.
Yes, I have had bad experiences with him, a couple of years back. He bores his blocks on the floor with a portable boring machine. That should give you some clue as to how professional the shop is.
Well, I will say this....that was about 3 years ago. He may have changed his ways since then.
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09-27-2008, 07:44 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Virginia Beach, Va & Port Charlotte, Fl.,
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blykins
No 428 block will go to 4.250, or even 4.230 for that matter. A 4.250 x 4.250 is meant to start with a 427 block or an aftermarket block.
I have no clue how he's getting to 482, unless it's with a custom billet crankshaft.
Yes, I have had bad experiences with him, a couple of years back. He bores his blocks on the floor with a portable boring machine. That should give you some clue as to how professional the shop is.
Well, I will say this....that was about 3 years ago. He may have changed his ways since then.
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I think he sweeps the floor before he bore them now, nothing like process improvements..  |
09-27-2008, 08:58 AM
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Join Date: Aug 1999
Location: Ellington,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Classic Roadster 351W, T5, Red & White
Posts: 3,478
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Pops Performance:
" Premier ford Fe engine builders as well as restoration services available. Pops has taken engine building to the next level with our 30+ years of performance,drag racing and restoration experience. Having the experience is what seperates Pops from the all around engine builder. With the popularity of the Fe has brought forth a need for strong builders,Pops experience with these engines makes us the right choice for your build."
http://www.popsperformancecenter.com/about_us
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09-27-2008, 09:07 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 22,001
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Quote:
From the Pop's website:
Pops is a family owned and operated business that is run on biblical principals.
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An I-Beam Rod for an I-Beam Rod, no doubt....  |
09-27-2008, 11:04 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Eagle,
Ne.
Cobra Make, Engine: 1966 Lone Star 427SC.
Posts: 4,307
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That's too bad, if he's the one you had trouble with. His site on ebay has good information and pretty pictures but, you know how that goes.
I suppose someone should alert him about this post, so he can defend himself. We'll see what happens
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09-27-2008, 11:13 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Odessa (Tampa),
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Cobra Make, Engine: BDR 559. 410 Stroker 72 block AFR205 Heads, Solid roller lifters, Comp Cams XR286, Eagle 4" stroke internally balanced with chevy journals, Oliver rods, Probe Forged pistons, Mighty Demon, Super Victor, MSD Digital 6.....
Posts: 260
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I'm confused... He had many items listed on ebay, but has NO feedback for the last 90 days??? His website nore his eBay listings give much detail on any of the products.
I would be cautious on just those facts alone....
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09-27-2008, 06:49 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Louisville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: I'm Cobra-less!
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He's got a dyno now apparently...maybe he's moved up in the world.
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09-27-2008, 07:00 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
Posts: 22,001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by blykins
He's got a dyno now apparently...maybe he's moved up in the world.
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Not a dyno, a Dino. Here's a pic:
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09-27-2008, 08:28 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Louisville,
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I guess I shouldn't rag on him so bad. I had some bad experiences with him, but that was several years ago. Everyone's gotta start somewhere I suppose.
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09-28-2008, 12:55 AM
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Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Arkadelphia, AR,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Kirkham 427 brushed aluminum with Keith Craft 527C.I. all aluminum FE
Posts: 992
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There is no Santa Claus
Like they say, there is no Santa Claus and you get what you pay for. I have had several calls from people that got this cheap stuff and are now wondering why they are having problems.
Never heard of the guy and know of no records that he has set with an FE. I did not know there was a need for a new FE Guru all of the sudden. Where have some of these people been the last 20 years before the FE caught on with these new parts.
Take your chances and you might get lucky, that is the chance you take with some of these Ebay only advertisers. Good luck, Keith Craft
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09-28-2008, 03:38 AM
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Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: WPG. M.B. CAN.,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Occupational Health & Safety Instructor
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Good question about this builder.He has also advertized/auctioned a SOHC cammer on ebay for 15k.Seems too good to be true.But until he's proven either way,my cash stays put.
it's really sad how difficult it is to choose a builder.heres what i mean.
I saw T&L engines on ebay.I came here and asked advice.U guys said check out ffcobra site,word is there shaky.I go there and bingo an entire thread on how much they suck.thats why were here to help right?
Now i go to ffcobra and T&L now sponsors a thread and everyone there is singing there praise. Like WTF?
Maybe I'm lucky I take forever to make up my mind!lol  |
09-28-2008, 05:36 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Fairfield,
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Cobra Make, Engine: HM-2027 / 427 SO
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TTGeorge.... Call the guy (Keith Craft) who posted above you. Does not get much better than that.
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09-28-2008, 12:51 PM
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Join Date: May 2006
Location: St. Louisville,
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Cobra Make, Engine: A&C 67 427 cobra SB
Posts: 2,445
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A 428 bored 0.040 over gives 4.170 bore which would require a 4.41 stroke to get to 482 cid.
A 0.060 over bore would require a 4.375 stroke. This seems plausable to me, if you off set gound a 4.25 crank, I think you could get there.
Not that I have an opinion on the advertiser, just trying to see how he could get there.
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