Weight of FE engine ?

[FUNFER2]

I don't recall the weight of a assembled FE engine ? (428 actually)

[tool time George]

hi kevin, I read somewhere that a factory stock 428 ran 650lbs.So don't drop it on your foot.I think it was a haynes FE manual.
Hope that helps.I'm sure it's for shipping purposes so it should be close enough.
let us know how that 482 growls Post a clip of it running if you can.
George

[FUNFER2]

I knew it was a tug boat !

The KC 482 will be great ! I'm selling my 428 that's in the car now. I need to wait to get the final specs ready for the 482 until at least until first of June, as the build may,........be on a TV show as well as the magazine. We'll see.

I don't even know how to ship it if it sells out of state ?
Do freight companies have a pallet that they can ship it anywhere ?

I also thought about using the pallet ect. that Keith will ship the 482 in.

[Dwight]

Keith will ship your engine on a pallet with the motor covered with plywood box. You can use this shipping crate to re-ship your old motor.
I have used a pallet and made an angle iron frame (you need a welder) to hold a 390, bolt the metal frame to the pallet, covered the motor with thick cardboard and shipped it to Texas. We did not have a problem but the plywood (OSB) box is a safer way to ship a motor.

Dwight

[FUNFER2]

Yep, I know Keith will ship it very well.
If my 428 sells before Keith gets done with mine, I'll just ask the buyer to hold on.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by FUNFER2

I knew it was a tug boat !

In stock, all-iron, form, maybe. But remember, most of the FEs going in to Cobras today have a good bit of weight shaving thanks to the aluminum parts. My FE is within 60lbs of an original stock Ford small block.

[Ronbo]

25lb intake? (well almost all iron)

Not sure about that 17lb starter either. (maybe it just seems like more when your on your back trying to hold it in place while getting a bolt started)

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by Ronbo

25lb intake? (well almost all iron)

Not sure about that 17lb starter either. (maybe it just seems like more when your on your back trying to hold it in place while getting a bolt started)

That hi-po job evidently got the benefit of the PI intake. I think that 17 lb. number is pretty close -- I've got that monster starter on my FE. You could shave 10 lbs. off right there. Ronbo, you've got the aluminum block, don't you? You're probably down in the low 500's.

[Ronbo]

Sounds about right. I think it's right at 530lbs. I can't go by the weigh bill since Kieth also supplied the trans, flywheel, clutch, and bellhousing. Plus the mass-flo stuff. (the crate was packed full to the top) The Fedex bill shows 834lbs for everything. (including the crate)

I think it comes in about 20lbs less than an all-iron 289.

[SantaFe66]

Ford FE big block 650 (Deduct 100# - alum hds, 50# - alum intake)
(332-428 CID)

The above came from: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us

He published a pretty complete list of engine weights for many makes on the web.

[patrickt]

I've received a couple of requests for that FE Engine Weight spreadsheet in Excel format. You may download it from me here:
http://208.255.159.239/feengineweight.xls

[Barry_R]

Ain't no 17 pound FE intakes anywhere on earth.....
Aluminum ones seem to run between 32 and 36 pounds.
Iron ones bust my scale...

[FUNFER2]

Hey Patrick- I would need to download the spreed sheet required but, my computer is getting slow and can't add any more new files. I'll get another add on board someday !

Barry-you have mail.

[olddog]

Originally Posted by SantaFe66

Ford FE big block 650 (Deduct 100# - alum hds, 50# - alum intake)
(332-428 CID)

The above came from: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us

He published a pretty complete list of engine weights for many makes on the web.

The spreadsheet had 86# for bare heads. Based on how it added up, I took it to mean two heads equal 86# or one is 43#. If that is so, Aluminum cannot save more weight than what the iron parts weight. So what is the correct weight for the heads?

If I add 33# that Barry said an aluminum intake runs, to this 50# savings, then an iron intake should tip the scales at 83# give or take. Does that sound correct?

Thank you very much for the spread sheet. I collect tid bits like this.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by olddog

Thank you very much for the spread sheet. I collect tid bits like this.

It helps offset the fact that I occasionally get yellow-carded on this forum....

[olddog]

Originally Posted by FUNFER2

Hey Patrick- I would need to download the spreed sheet required but, my computer is getting slow and can't add any more new files. I'll get another add on board someday !

Barry-you have mail.

If you have usb port on your computer, pick up a thumb drive. There are many sizes available. You can get them way up in the gigabite range.

[FUNFER2]

I don't know if i should start another thread about this subject but, here's the main question for needing the weight.

I've seen many guys through the years using a chain hoist in there garage to remove small block,...engines but no big blocks.

Say the FE weighs 650 lbs., if I sandwiched two 2x10's on my garage rafters, and attached the hoist to them, don't you think they would hold that much weight ?

[olddog]

Originally Posted by FUNFER2

I don't know if i should start another thread about this subject but, here's the main question for needing the weight.

I've seen many guys through the years using a chain hoist in there garage to remove small block,...engines but no big blocks.

Say the FE weighs 650 lbs., if I sandwiched two 2x10's on my garage rafters, and attached the hoist to them, don't you think they would hold that much weight ?

It depends on the material, the span, and how it is all tied together. Would you and 3 or 4 buddies climb up there and sit for an hour?

Lay a 4" x 6" x 8' across the rafters. Then buy some jack posts (like they put in the basement to hold up the floors. Set a jack post on each end of the 4x6. Use screws to make sure everything is tied together and cannot move or fall on your car.

Better yet rent a lift. The wheels give it good mobility.

[patrickt]

Originally Posted by FUNFER2

... if I sandwiched two 2x10's on my garage rafters, and attached the hoist to them, don't you think they would hold that much weight ?

Here's some tables that show load weight based on size/span. http://www.raisedfloorliving.com/spantables-1.shtml But in a word, don't do it. Buy an engine stand and rent a lift (because you will not use the lift for more than a couple of hours at a time, but your engine might sit outside of your car for a good period). Being able to position your lift while you're lifting is a big deal.

[undy]

Kev, use a cherry picker. You can pick them up at Costco/Sams Club/Harbor Freight/Northern Tool for around 200 bucks.. A friend would probably lend you one. Man, what a better system to lift an engine rather than what you're going to use. I've got a cheap one that I've yanked several FEs with a TKO600 behind it out of the Cobra. I did it myself, no help. Rethink that rafter crap..

Maybe another group purchase.. heh, heh..

Dave