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06-10-2009, 07:15 PM
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Hot Rod SOHC article
I just got the August 2009 Hot Rod mag in the mail, nice article on the availability of SOHC parts and engines.
Did you see it?
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06-14-2009, 06:00 PM
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Saw it and slavered over it.
This is my first post; checking out the kit sources brought me here.
I've had Corvettes (396, 427) and did some deals in stock and NASCAR 426 Hemi parts. Tired of NOS stuff and am researching a Cobra or GT build to ENJOY and wear out, if necessary.
My engine builder and mentor was a B-29 mechanic who retired from the USAF in 1957. He always said, "You will never be satisfied until you get a Hemi."
He was right. He's gone now, but I'll bet he'd approve of overhead cams.
Anyway, that's the tree I'm barking up, and with the Hot Rod article, I'll sure more SOHC fans are on their way.
Looking forward to learning.
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06-14-2009, 07:16 PM
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Bad to the bone
that sohc is bad to the bone. i am going to build one like it and put it in a .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ......glass box in my living room.
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06-14-2009, 08:00 PM
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I was just talking with Keith Craft via e-mail, and he said he has plans to build one.
I of course asked him "whuca gunna put it in?"
I would love to have a SOHC in say a 63 Galaxie.
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06-15-2009, 10:02 AM
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Jay Brown the author of the article is a legend on the FE Forum. I got my copy of Hot Rod a few days ago and will start saving my pennies to put one together someday. New products are coming out to the market over the course of the next few months and years, so people interested in building a SOHC engine, like me, will be able to without paying the high prices for original SOHC parts.
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06-15-2009, 10:05 AM
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Any idea as to the price Keith would sell it for ?
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06-15-2009, 10:28 AM
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One of the parts sources in the article, Precision Oil Pumps, can build you a SOHC right now. Doug Garifo, the owner, has built a couple in the last few months. He is great FE and SOHC source. Not just oil pumps but rocker assemblies, Genesis blocks, 482 stroker kits etc. etc. A real honest and straight forward business man too.
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06-15-2009, 10:34 AM
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After paying about $5,000 for the Pond block, which is the block that is used for the buildup in the Hot Rod article and getting a set of Bill Coon's heads for $5,000, it's all down hill from there.
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06-15-2009, 12:49 PM
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Didn't I read a while back that there were some serious quality control issues with the aftermarket heads for the Cammers? I thought I saw a few articles/threads about that......have the casting gurus resolved the issues on fit and finish or is this a different source.
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06-15-2009, 02:22 PM
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Go with the real deal
C&C Motorsports in Manassas, VA. has the real deal.
http://www.candcmotorsports.com/index.html
Carrol Carter has his own block and heads and builds these motors for Pro Stock as well as "street" applications. He built my FE and is reknowned for his expertise on these motors. When I picked up my motor there was a guy in VA. who had one in his Cobra. I think it was a "monster" motor. Carrol advised me not to even think about it as it was totally undriveable on the street in the configuration the fella had it built in. If one was reasonable I'm sure a streetable one could be configured.
These cars are a handful now....
David
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06-15-2009, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by rokndad
Didn't I read a while back that there were some serious quality control issues with the aftermarket heads for the Cammers? I thought I saw a few articles/threads about that......have the casting gurus resolved the issues on fit and finish or is this a different source.
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From what I've read on the FE Forum, the SOHC heads made by Dove have had problems, but the heads from Bill Coon are the versions to buy. These are the heads that are featured in Jay Brown's article in Hot Rod.
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06-15-2009, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by KM480
One of the parts sources in the article, Precision Oil Pumps, can build you a SOHC right now. Doug Garifo, the owner, has built a couple in the last few months. He is great FE and SOHC source. Not just oil pumps but rocker assemblies, Genesis blocks, 482 stroker kits etc. etc. A real honest and straight forward business man too.
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I'll give another vote for Doug. Good guy and good parts.
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07-07-2009, 07:04 PM
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I'm the guy on page 99 with the mini Spintron. I'm currently testing one of Jay Brown's Dove heads and yes, there are indeed some issues with it. Here's a little video clip of a rocker shaft bolt pulling out at 10,000 rpm (no, that's not a typo - TEN THOUSAND!)
http://s140.photobucket.com/albums/r...Spring1000.flv
The smoke is from oil hitting the very hot valve spring. Once the bolt pulled out, oil really started gushing out and created a cloud of smoke. I was able to shut down with no permanent harm done :-)
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07-07-2009, 07:45 PM
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I am in process of building a Cammer right now for the 2009 Engine Masters Challenge.
So far I have spent every penny I have ever made and am spending future money at a rate that virtually guarantees a job in government at some point in my future...
Mr. "Endless Project" has been instrumental in testing out some new ideas and products for this effort. I have used his videos to motivate a couple suppliers to develop improved Cammer parts that will benefit anyone planning one of these in the future.
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07-07-2009, 08:24 PM
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.....So far I have spent every penny I have ever made and am spending future money at a rate that virtually guarantees a job in government at some point in my future....
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Which, in turn, virtually guarantees you'll never make enough to actually finish the motor . Your government job will have to become a politician - then you'll be able to steal enough to build several.
I'm not sure which is the sadder incentive here....guv'mint job or just spending all the kids inheritances.
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07-07-2009, 09:57 PM
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Quote:
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I am in process of building a Cammer right now for the 2009 Engine Masters Challenge.
So far I have spent every penny I have ever made and am spending future money at a rate that virtually guarantees a job in government at some point in my future...
Mr. "Endless Project" has been instrumental in testing out some new ideas and products for this effort. I have used his videos to motivate a couple suppliers to develop improved Cammer parts that will benefit anyone planning one of these in the future.
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Glad to see you here Barry! Just holler if you need any testing or part design done. I can't wait to see how that cammer does at EMC!
- Bill
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07-07-2009, 11:01 PM
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Man, I was thinking of bringing back this thread today too.
I have read that "footbox modifications" and/or removing the inner fenders may be necessary to install a SOHC into a Cobra. Is this correct? I love me some Cammer.
Barry, can you disclose anything about your build or is it being kept a secret?
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07-07-2009, 11:22 PM
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Rod there are footbox mods on both sides required to fit the cammer in your car and I believe the inner fender on the passenger side would need a bit influencing as well.
The top corners are cut in several inches to fit the engine and the standard gas pedal setup would gone. Then there's getting 2" headers to fit in there around the steering shaft.
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07-08-2009, 12:18 AM
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Originally Posted by RodKnock
Man, I was thinking of bringing back this thread today too.
I have read that "footbox modifications" and/or removing the inner fenders may be necessary to install a SOHC into a Cobra. Is this correct? I love me some Cammer.
Barry, can you disclose anything about your build or is it being kept a secret?
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Heck, my thought process goes even further. SOHC's in Cobra's are neat, but to me how neat would an all aluminum, fuel injected screaming Cammer be in the back of a GT40?
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07-08-2009, 05:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Barry_R
I am in process of building a Cammer right now for the 2009 Engine Masters Challenge.
So far I have spent every penny I have ever made and am spending future money at a rate that virtually guarantees a job in government at some point in my future...
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I sense a bailout...
Obama Motorsports?
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