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08-20-2009, 10:09 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Brunswick,
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Cobra Make, Engine: BDR 1311 428PI
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PCV for FE
I've been looking around for a rear breather with a PCV valve provision and though I know they exist I can't seem to find one. From Carl's and HP trends I can get a plate with a nipple then use a screw-in type valve. But I've gotta say that this look does nothing for me;
How about you guys? Who's using what for a cleaner look?
Steve
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08-20-2009, 10:53 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Cape Coral,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Homebuilt, .060 over 428 FE Dual Quad
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I've got mine capped off and pcv is in the valve cover.
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08-20-2009, 11:48 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by acmjg
I've got mine capped off and pcv is in the valve cover.
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Me too; that's the worst looking PCV setup I've ever seen.
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08-20-2009, 11:56 AM
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Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Brunswick,
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Cobra Make, Engine: BDR 1311 428PI
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Thanks guys but my VCs aren't set up for it. I've seen pics of a plate w/PCV valve and a short piece of tubing going right to a fitting under the carb and those are the cleanest that I've seen. So that what I'm trying to get done.
Steve
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08-20-2009, 12:32 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2003
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #698 428 Toploader
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I bought a rear alum. plate from Southern Automotive (I think) that has a grommet in it and a basket underneath it with some type of wire mesh inside the basket. I assume the mesh is to stop the oil from getting sucked into the vacuum hose. The plate says dove on it.
You can get a piece of 3/8 hose with a tight, moulded 90 degree bent in it from chevrolet or possibly a well equipped auto parts store if needed. The moulded hose will not kink if you need a tight bend.
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08-20-2009, 12:52 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cobred
I bought a rear alum. plate from Southern Automotive (I think) that has a grommet in it and a basket underneath it with some type of wire mesh inside the basket. I assume the mesh is to stop the oil from getting sucked into the vacuum hose.
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DSC Motorsports has the FE Intake PCV Block Plate Kit/Nipple along with the Basket & Mesh (both OEM and Repro). Fabbing a PCV valve to the nipple doesn't strike me as being all that tough. Then just a hose to the carb base.
http://www.dscmotorsport.com/Manifolds/index.htm
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08-20-2009, 03:22 PM
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Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Fairfield,
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Cobra Make, Engine: HM-2027 / 427 SO
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Check with Nick (mickmate) here. www.actoncustom.com I bought mine from him and very pleased with it. .250 aluminum plate with PCV and grommet. You can even polish it for a little extra bling if you like. I did.
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08-20-2009, 03:24 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FFR428
Check with Nick (mickmate) here. www.actoncustom.com I bought mine from him and very pleased with it. .250 aluminum plate with PCV and grommet. You can even polish it for a little extra bling if you like. I did.
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That sounds like a good idea. Occasionally DSC gets "less than perfect" marks over on the FE forums and supporting "one of our own" is always preferable.
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08-20-2009, 03:44 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: Butler...488" hi-rise, dry-sump FE s/o w/stacks
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lovehamr,
I know you want to know something about a plate, PCV and a NIPPLE.....can't figure out where this will fit on your avitar....LOL. She is "over the top".
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08-20-2009, 04:42 PM
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Location: Freedomia,,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Coupe,Blue w/white stripes SB; Roadster, Blue w/white stripes BB w/2-4s; SPF installer/Hot Rod-Custom Car builder
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I have a couple of the transitional PCV set ups for an FE, between when they adapted them and when they became a standard piece.If you need one PM me.
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08-20-2009, 08:36 PM
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FFR, That's what I was looking for (second from the right.) Thanks.
Russ, you might be confusing "PCV with "PVC".........................
Steve
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08-20-2009, 08:44 PM
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Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Charleston,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2592, Shelby alum. 527
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Here's the one I got from George Gessford. It has a machined aluminum basket with a filter mesh under the plate. You can't beat the quality.
http://www.gessford.com/cobra/images/KERN-01444.JPG
There is more info on his website.
Rodger
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08-20-2009, 08:57 PM
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Rodger, that's it to, thanks.
Steve
Last edited by lovehamr; 08-21-2009 at 05:37 AM..
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08-20-2009, 09:16 PM
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Location: Charleston,
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Cobra Make, Engine: SPF 2592, Shelby alum. 527
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Steve,
Found this pic in your gallery.
http://www.clubcobra.com/photopost/s...=&ppuser=21666
Tell me about the adapters between the valve covers and the breathers. Do the valve cover openings have opposing notches?
Rodger
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08-21-2009, 05:48 AM
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Quote:
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Rodger,
The each VC has 2 threaded openings (w/baffels) which you can get a couple of different caps for. In the pic you can see one solid and one with the breather. This pic shows them pretty well;
You can get them set up for a PCV as well but I didn't want the hose on top of the VC anyway. I don't know what you mean by "opposing notches."
Steve
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08-21-2009, 05:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lovehamr
I don't know what you mean by "opposing notches."
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Steve,
Here's the valve covers I have:
http://www.dscmotorsport.com/asp/Pro...asp?PartID=988
Each has one opening for a "twist-in" breather like this:
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/FM...2/?image=large
I'm trying to find a straight tube adapter that will twist in the valve cover hole and let me clamp a K&N breather onto the tube:
http://www.knfilters.com/images/l/62-1430.jpg
The installation would appear very similar to the one in your picture.
I've had no luck finding an adapter like this so far, so I may just TIG a short piece of aluminum tubing (1-1/4 or 1-3/8"OD) over the valve cover openings for the appropriate size K&N breathers.
BTW, I have the PCV assembly from Gessford I posted....works great and it's a quality piece.
Rodger
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08-21-2009, 05:38 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Holderness, NH, US of A,
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4772 old iron FE
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I have made a couple of the mesh filled baskets to go under them too. I think I used a compressed air muffler under one of them. Also making them in steel with the tube welded on to go with the puke tanks.
Last edited by mickmate; 08-21-2009 at 05:40 PM..
Reason: Thought of another I've made.
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08-21-2009, 07:18 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: CSX 4758, CSX 381 Keith Craft 482 w/ Weber 48 IDA's
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I think this is what you're looking for. I was told this is an earlier Gessford unit.
The plate is a very nice cast piece with the fitting threaded into it. The bracket is for my throttle shaft.
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08-22-2009, 08:08 AM
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Cobra Make, Engine: HM-2027 / 427 SO
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Just to add HP Trends www.hptrends.com sells a nice billet breather basket that drops in the intake. It's in the Misc parts section and was $50 last time I checked.
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