New Ford GT Supercar Unveiled -

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by ACademic

V6 power, and as Real1 suggested, Aventador-esque body queues? I'll go with the minority and boldly state that I'm not impressed (and this coming from a guy that adores the GT).

Instead of comparing it to the old Ford GT, embrace the more upbeat and modern stylings. View the lines for what they are, purpose built to make the car slip through the air more efficiently. Embrace the newer motor, and the dynamics of why they went in the direction that they did, which is longevity, and a perfect powerband for an endurance race or two.

I see the beauty in the original GT40's (all of the body configurations), I see the beauty in the Ford GT's, and I see the beauty in the new Ford GT's.


Bill S.


Bill S.

[REAL 1]

The new GT is cool and gorgeous. I can't
dispute that. However it seems that looks no different to me then other modern supercars. The new car to my eye clearly draws its cues more from the Aventadore, Enzo, 458 and McLaren more then it's supposed original progenitor the Ford GT 40.

The 2005 2006 Ford GT's or as otherwise referred to as a "petunia" project GT drew its design directly from its original progenitor the GT 40 and was a new rebirth of that car inside and out following the original lines, curves and character down to the cut outs in the roof as part of the doors etc...

This new car while a slick piece and gorgeous is a different animal.

Who can look at the new car and say "that's a GT40"

I was hoping for an updated Daytona Coupe to compete with the Viper and Vette.

This New GT will be unattainable except for oil sheiks and multi millionaires. Then you will have the usual greed from dealers with their ridiculous ADMs.

I think this new car has made the petunia era GT's instant classics overnight it will soon make them even more desirable.

[Bernica]

Hey Bill, Nice review. You actually said "beauty" twice in your post. I think you may be actually smitten and digging into that deep cash can in the back yard!

[Mark IV]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

Not if the purpose of the car first is to win at Le Mans and homologation is merely an inconvenience. Production numbers expected to be in the 1200 range over 3 to 4 years. Prices expected in the 400K range buy my dealer owner says it will be much greater than that. At 250-300 units per year in a world market there won't be any left for us mere mortals.

Your dealer knows nothing. Nothing.

I was on the press conference feed today and nothing was given to us at the dealer level that was not given to the general press. Any pricing, production quantities or anything else is pure speculation at this time. I have no doubt that some dealers are taking "deposits" on a car they have no idea of availability or pricing on currently. P. T. Barnum called it.................

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by Bernica

Hey Bill, Nice review. You actually said "beauty" twice in your post. I think you may be actually smitten and digging into that deep cash can in the back yard!

Not likely at this point in time, but isn't it the "beauty" of finding out what is fact and what is speculation. Things could change between now and then, that is the "beauty" of the whole debacle


Bill S.

[Cobra #3170]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

The new GT is cool and gorgeous. I can't
dispute that. However it seems that looks no different to me then other modern supercars. The new car to my eye clearly draws its cues more from the Aventadore, Enzo, 458 and McLaren more then it's supposed original progenitor the Ford GT 40.

The 2005 2006 Ford GT's or as otherwise referred to as a "petunia" project GT drew its design directly from its original progenitor the GT 40 and was a new rebirth of that car inside and out following the original lines, curves and character down to the cut outs in the roof as part of the doors etc...

This new car while a slick piece and gorgeous is a different animal.

Who can look at the new car and say "that's a GT40"

I was hoping for an updated Daytona Coupe to compete with the Viper and Vette.

This New GT will be unattainable except for oil sheiks and multi millionaires. Then you will have the usual greed from dealers with their ridiculous ADMs.

I think this new car has made the petunia era GT's instant classics overnight it will soon make them even more desirable.

I have to agree, I like the new car but don't see that the dynamics it may offer will be worth the 400k plus whatever mark-up the dealers tack on. I am pretty sure the race version will be competitive in the class they enter but how good will the street car be vs. competitors?
I do not know the weight but I doubt it will be in the 2200 pound range that would give it the kind of performance that competitive products with higher weight and HP have. My wife is a real car nut and her first comment after viewing the photos today was "that looks too much like a Lamborghini".
It is a beautiful car but so are it's competitors. I also wonder how it will stack up against the new mid engine Corvette which will most likely be half the price? I am very fond of the lines of both the GT-40 and Ford GT but I guess that just shows my age. Hell, I still think the Cobra is a nice looking car, talk about dated and timeless.

[Dumpling]

It's not a beautiful car. Too much front overhang, the rear panel area is a mess. I even question it's high speed aerodynamics design with those air bucket/ parachute air intakes.

I think homogulation rules should include a cap on the MSRP based on some factor of median wage in the country of production.

Designed to fit a specific body of rules, it fails as a design for everyday drivers, and falls far short of what is currently offered by other manufacturers.

I have a neighbor with a Viper who literally uses it to get groceries and run errands with. Another with a Corvette ditto, plus he commutes in it. Either of the vehicles would be quicker than this mongrel Ford, and both would be many orders cheaper than it.

If you want to race trotters, you need a sulky, if you want to race in whatever class this thing is made for, then you need either it, or something that doesn't require your supplier of a race car, to pummel the ground with his fists and feet in a hissy fit tantrum to get the rules changed to match his car's features.

600HP is a joke in the "supercar" category. This is more of a purpose-designed go kart in concept. Maybe next they will turn their engineers loose on a go kart.

[Buzz]

Personally I see several styling cues that point to a distinct if subtle family homage to the original GT40. The entire upper front surface from the lip of the bumper to the lights, over the hood and including the windshield shape and front roofline are all GT40. The side buttress/wing/scoop/tunnel treatment is a growth of the small buttress scoop behind the side window in the MKI '40's. Even the overbite looking at the nose from the side pays tribute to its grandaddy. Is it also a bit Aventadorish as well? Definitely. But I'm pretty sure if I saw the photos with no info whatsoever, I would recognise the GT40 DNA.

[bret a ewing]

Originally Posted by Dumpling

It's not a beautiful car. Too much front overhang, the rear panel area is a mess. I even question it's high speed aerodynamics design with those air bucket/ parachute air intakes.

I think homogulation rules should include a cap on the MSRP based on some factor of median wage in the country of production.

Designed to fit a specific body of rules, it fails as a design for everyday drivers, and falls far short of what is currently offered by other manufacturers.

I have a neighbor with a Viper who literally uses it to get groceries and run errands with. Another with a Corvette ditto, plus he commutes in it. Either of the vehicles would be quicker than this mongrel Ford, and both would be many orders cheaper than it.

If you want to race trotters, you need a sulky, if you want to race in whatever class this thing is made for, then you need either it, or something that doesn't require your supplier of a race car, to pummel the ground with his fists and feet in a hissy fit tantrum to get the rules changed to match his car's features.

600HP is a joke in the "supercar" category. This is more of a purpose-designed go kart in concept. Maybe next they will turn their engineers loose on a go kart.

Sigh.............

[mrmustang]

How about a sound clip

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HHHmmm, can't seem to embed at the moment, try the direct link above.

[mikeinatlanta]

Originally Posted by bret a ewing

Sigh.............

Agreed.

[mrmustang]

Evan

Are you responding and critiquing as an enthusiast first, or as a current Ford GT owner? Yes, I realize that the reviews by current Ford GT owners is mixed and about a 60/40 split of like vs dislike, but is it because of what you have now that is jading your (and others) opinion, or perhaps at least some of what I have read, appears to be frustration as to the fact Ford has updated, and will be releasing this updated version, taking some of the shine off the current bodied GT's .

Personally, I could see one of these in my garage, yours too.

Bill S.

PS: Bret, so has Bobbie asked what color yet ?

Originally Posted by REAL 1

The new GT is cool and gorgeous. I can't
dispute that. However it seems that looks no different to me then other modern supercars. The new car to my eye clearly draws its cues more from the Aventadore, Enzo, 458 and McLaren more then it's supposed original progenitor the Ford GT 40.

The 2005 2006 Ford GT's or as otherwise referred to as a "petunia" project GT drew its design directly from its original progenitor the GT 40 and was a new rebirth of that car inside and out following the original lines, curves and character down to the cut outs in the roof as part of the doors etc...

This new car while a slick piece and gorgeous is a different animal.

Who can look at the new car and say "that's a GT40"

I was hoping for an updated Daytona Coupe to compete with the Viper and Vette.

This New GT will be unattainable except for oil sheiks and multi millionaires. Then you will have the usual greed from dealers with their ridiculous ADMs.

I think this new car has made the petunia era GT's instant classics overnight it will soon make them even more desirable.

[Ron61]

I have seen several complaints about the new car on other sites and that it isn't exactly like the originals. Any car built now will never be one of the originals and personally if I could afford one I would like to have one.

Ron

[Buzz]

Maybe or maybe not not head-to-head on the track, but ultimately the new GT will have to stand up against the upcoming mid engine C8 Corvette. At probably half the price of the GT and a bit less radical/more daily-driver friendly, the C8 is mandated to improve on the current C7 performance envelope. It will be a screamer and a looker, though there's much trepidation about how well the Corvette genes will be maintained in a mid engine configuration. Since it will share the showroom floor as a flagship model next to the current C7 for at least a couple of years, I predict a strong family resemblance and not too radical a shape - something like this:

[bret a ewing]

What the hell is going on ............do I really hear some of you Blue Oval loyalists b!tchin'.

Ford has the balls to build yet another mid-engine supercar............a really awesome piece of machinery that no other American manufacturer has ever stepped up to built. Thrice!

And NO, it's not another retro, it's a modern material and design car with GT40 styling cues. Why? To go racing.
The original wasn't designed to be a street car. Don't believe me? Get a ride in one, and make sure it doesn't have A/C.

Come on guys embrace this amazing time in automotive history. Support Ford and it's racing effort for an All-American Lemans comeback. So effen-what if it isnt priced with a Fusion.
20 years from now when numb autonomous vehicles are roaming the earth and insurance rates are prohibitive for those few folks wanting to drive a car themselves...................remember this era.
Performance like this will not be around forever, lets have fun NOW dammit...........

Best, Bret.

[mrmustang]

I'm hoping that Blue is a production color.

Anything but Grey Metallic as the last Shelby club I belonged to, everyone had a Grey Metallic Ford GT


Bill S.

Originally Posted by bret a ewing

What the hell is going on ............do I really hear some of you Blue Oval loyalists b!tchin'.

Ford has the balls to build yet another mid-engine supercar............a really awesome piece of machinery that no other American manufacturer has ever stepped up to built. Thrice!

And NO, it's not another retro, it's a modern material and design car with GT40 styling cues. Why? To go racing.
The original wasn't designed to be a street car. Don't believe me? Get a ride in one, and make sure it doesn't have A/C.

Come on guys embrace this amazing time in automotive history. Support Ford and it's racing effort for an All-American Lemans comeback. So effen-what if it isnt priced with a Fusion.
20 years from now when numb autonomous vehicles are roaming the earth and insurance rates are prohibitive for those few folks wanting to drive a car themselves...................remember this era.
Performance like this will not be around forever, lets have fun NOW dammit...........

Best, Bret.

[bret a ewing]

Bill,

If you buy blue you and Dom will be twins.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by bret a ewing

Bill,

If you buy blue you and Dom will be twins.

Never did find a Heritage when Deb gave me the go ahead, just bad timing on our part given the relocation and loss of my 10,000 square foot storage building

She likes the new Blue one from the show


Bill S.

[bret a ewing]

I want a ride.......please.

[twobjshelbys]

I'm ecstatic that you hate it. Please spread the word to others about how awful it is. Then maybe they won't sell all 300 of the first year's production and I'll be able to get one.