New Ford GT Supercar Unveiled -

[twobjshelbys]

This car is a return by Ford to the strategy of the 60's. The homologation Cobras and GT40s were street-ified race cars.. They didn't enjoy much of a "comfortable grocery getter" reputation. The Ford GT was a street car that some "upped" to race. The new Ford GT is starting life as a race car and getting street things ADDED to it. It's designed to be best in its class. If that means the street car is a little untidy and uncomfortable, well just remember the Cobra and GT40.

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by bret a ewing

I want a ride.......please.

Only time will tell

If I get one, you can have the keys, I trust you.


Bill S.

[WhiteBirchFarm]

Where would you suggest to get the best updated info on this new model?

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

Evan

Are you responding and critiquing as an enthusiast first, or as a current Ford GT owner? Yes, I realize that the reviews by current Ford GT owners is mixed and about a 60/40 split of like vs dislike, but is it because of what you have now that is jading your (and others) opinion, or perhaps at least some of what I have read, appears to be frustration as to the fact Ford has updated, and will be releasing this updated version, taking some of the shine off the current bodied GT's .

Personally, I could see one of these in my garage, yours too.

Bill S.

PS: Bret, so has Bobbie asked what color yet ?

Good question. Not sure where my remarks are coming from but they represent my take on the car. I thought I was quite clear that I think the car is beautiful. Anyone with eyeballs that work can see that.

Actually the vast majority of the guys over on the FGT forum like the car a lot but there are criticisms of it. However, when asked if they would trade their Petunia era GT for the new one 90% have said no. Many members there can afford the entry fee of $400K for the new car (suspected entry fee).


To the contrary the consensus is that the new car will add shine to the previous generation as the Petunia car has become an instant classic overnight. If prices of the new car exceed $400K and many believe it will far exceed it based on the limited homologation build of only 1200 units world wide and dealer ADMs expect the Petunia era cars to shoot up in value raising the bar for entry into the Ford GT/GT40 fraternity.

I am not into the slick Italian like designs of the current era super cars. I like the cars from the era of my youth. At the time I bought my FGT I was deciding whether to buy a F430 at the time from the same dealer at that time. The Ferrari was sitting right next to my FGT on the floor. It was gorgeous, scuderia badges, gated manual trans all the options. I went for the classic iconic looks of the FGT/GT40. I am into classic lines and looks.

There is no mistaking the FGT for what it is. A modern reissue of the GT40 from its outside design and curves, to its, interior to its cutout roof/doors, its gauges, its seats etc...It was intended to be an unmistakable return of the GT40. The new car? Not so much. It followed it's own design path and took cues from the GT40/FGT and also cues from many other cars. 458, Enzo, Aventadore, McLaren. It is unquestionably high tech and slick inside and out.
One thing for sure, it is "no blue collar hero" like the original Ford GT and the Petunia FGT to quote Jermey Clarkson. It is more in the class of wine tasting, Bruno Magli wearing aristocrats.

My criticisms are no V8 and too far of a deviation from the original in appearance and design. I was hoping to see an updated Mark IIB type design
running the new 5.2 fpc engine.

With prices expected to be north of $500K after ADMs it will be unattainable for all but the likes of Jay Leno, oil Sheiks and members of the Ford family.

If Ford produces the new car in numbers then maybe it will become more attainable.

One thing is for sure I am like 90% of the others on the FGT forum who would not trade even up for the new car. Nope.

The Petunia era Ford GT is and remains one of the "must have" cars of all time. Not sure about the new one yet especially with all its competition which the Petunia FGT has out distanced in value retainage and its staying power of desireability.

My take.

Believe it or not I have now come full circle and finally agree with (God, I can't believe I am saying this publicly) Roger Davis. I don't see spending gobs of money for fancy cars that do nothing but sit at cruise nights and car shows. I drive my cars and enjoy them. I would not spend $400K for a car merely to have it sit at a cruise night which is too expensive to use for it's intended purpose, i.e. track events.

I have a hard time, however, selling what I already have in expensive cars as I become attached to them. They are like pets in a way and I become sentimentally attached. My cars become part of me.

I now prefer to spend my money on cars I can enjoy and use as intended. I am having an R spec Boss 302 built to Pirelli World challenge specs/Trans Am TA3 spec built by Rehagen racing this winter and plan on spending more time at the track with my son rather than at cruise nights sitting in a lawn chair answering the same questions over and over. I still do like cruise nights though.

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by WhiteBirchFarm

Where would you suggest to get the best updated info on this new model?

Right now, "The Internet".

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

I now prefer to spend my money on cars I can enjoy and use as intended. I am having an R spec Boss 302 built to Pirelli World challenge specs/Trans Am TA3 spec built by Rehagen racing this winter and plan on spending more time at the track with my son rather than at cruise nights sitting in a lawn chair answering the same questions over and over. I still do like cruise nights though.

Might I suggest you and your son take the Bob Bondurant courses before you get behind the wheel of your new track toy.


Bill S.

[John McMahon]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Believe it or not I have now come full circle and finally agree with (God, I can't believe I am saying this publicly) Roger Davis.

[bret a ewing]

Originally Posted by WhiteBirchFarm

Where would you suggest to get the best updated info on this new model?

Ford GT Forum: DBK.

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by mrmustang

Might I suggest you and your son take the Bob Bondurant courses before you get behind the wheel of your new track toy.


Bill S.

Already did the Bertil Roos 5 day race school last year.

Hey John, you on foot these days?

[mrmustang]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Already did the Bertil Roos 5 day race school last year.

Hey John, you on foot these days?

Evan,

You know when it comes to safety and track time, I always think out my posts to the 9th degree. In this case I'll be blunt, just taking the Bertil Roos 5 day course is not enough, take the Bondurant course as well, both you and your son will learn so much more from it than the Bertil Roos course. I have been through both, they both have their benefits, but if you are headed into the car you described, you'll do yourself and your son a true disservice by not also taking the Bondurant advanced course.

Bill S.

[John McMahon]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Hey John, you on foot these days?

Pretty Much Evan...no time for cars anymore...glad to hear that you and your son are having fun....on the track!

[REAL 1]

Originally Posted by John McMahon

Pretty Much Evan...no time for cars anymore...glad to hear that you and your son are having fun....on the track!

Hope you are well.

Seeing Gary Emery in February.

Regards.

[twobjshelbys]

Originally Posted by bret a ewing

Ford GT Forum: DBK.

For WhiteBirchFarm:

Bret knows but just a warning on the Ford GT forum: It is an OWNER'S forum. Non-owners are expected to be seriously looking for a car (A ford GT, not the thing in the future) before posting more than a handful of posts. It's his sandbox and he does watch. Lurk all you want, but be careful about posting. Use SEARCH a lot - chances are if you're going to ask a question or make a statement it has already been done and you won't eat into your non-member budget. If you want full access feel free to buy my 2006 Heritage as it is for sale.

[John McMahon]

Originally Posted by REAL 1

Hope you are well.

Seeing Gary Emery in February.

Regards.

Cool...say hi to Gary and his wife for me!

[bret a ewing]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

For WhiteBirchFarm:

Bret knows but just a warning on the Ford GT forum: It is an OWNER'S forum. Non-owners are expected to be seriously looking for a car (A ford GT, not the thing in the future) before posting more than a handful of posts. It's his sandbox and he does watch. Lurk all you want, but be careful about posting. Use SEARCH a lot - chances are if you're going to ask a question or make a statement it has already been done and you won't eat into your non-member budget. If you want full access feel free to buy my 2006 Heritage as it is for sale.

Yep..

[1985 CCX]

I for one love..............

As an old school guy this is awesome........ Guessing its out of my budget.

[WhiteBirchFarm]

Originally Posted by twobjshelbys

For WhiteBirchFarm:

Bret knows but just a warning on the Ford GT forum: It is an OWNER'S forum. Non-owners are expected to be seriously looking for a car (A ford GT, not the thing in the future) before posting more than a handful of posts. It's his sandbox and he does watch. Lurk all you want, but be careful about posting. Use SEARCH a lot - chances are if you're going to ask a question or make a statement it has already been done and you won't eat into your non-member budget. If you want full access feel free to buy my 2006 Heritage as it is for sale.

Not interested in the former GT but thanks for the advice. I was just gathering information for the future model. I really do not have the time to contribute here but will be reading from time to time and will continue my behind the scene conversations.

Peter M Brant

[ng8264723]

I think that the $250K plus price is nuts. It shouldn't be twice the price of a zr1. The zr1 is a kick ass car. I would buy if it was around $150. At 250 I'll but a Ferrari

[Bernica]

I think we all know how it will go. Similar to the Ford GT when it rolled out around 2006...some guys will buy them and store them for a few years, then they will show up at B-J or some other auction with 200 miles on them for double the price they paid.
Just sayin'...

[ng8264723]

I would buy it to drive not to storeagain at 250 I think its too high