Go Back   Club Cobra > Club GT40 Areas (MKI - MKII - MKIII - MKIV) > GT40 Talk
User Name
Password
Club Cobra Home Register FAQ For Sale Calendar Today's Posts Journals

Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Main Menu
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
Keith Craft Racing
Keith Craft Racing
April 2025
S M T W T F S
    1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30      

Kirkham Motorsports

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 11-02-2015, 03:43 AM
Buzz's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: St. Lucia, West Indies, WI
Cobra Make & Engine: Unique 427SC 383 stroker
Posts: 3,782
Default I don't get the negativity...

I may be missing something but I wonder how many real track cars have undergone extensive damage repairs or restoration without anyone being concerned about sharing a track with them. I thought your initial gripe with this car was the issue that it could be sold on with no note on the title indicating it was damaged; or maybe the fact that it had some custom modifications. How would it be any different if the owner at the time of the accident decided to keep it, fix it and put it back on the road? Do you believe the damage was so extensive that it would be impossible to repair to original specs? Should the car have been discarded and sent to the crusher instead of being repaired?
__________________
Tropical Buzz

Grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the strength to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. -(wasn't me)

BEWARE OF THE DOGma!! Dogmatism bites...
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 11-02-2015, 10:53 AM
twobjshelbys's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Cobra Make & Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
Posts: 5,618
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Buzz View Post
I may be missing something but I wonder how many real track cars have undergone extensive damage repairs or restoration without anyone being concerned about sharing a track with them. I thought your initial gripe with this car was the issue that it could be sold on with no note on the title indicating it was damaged; or maybe the fact that it had some custom modifications. How would it be any different if the owner at the time of the accident decided to keep it, fix it and put it back on the road? Do you believe the damage was so extensive that it would be impossible to repair to original specs? Should the car have been discarded and sent to the crusher instead of being repaired?
I have no gripe on this car. I actually find it an interesting "conversion" and because of that, the history of it can never be buried. I thought it looked "wicked" but that's just because all black no stripe cars look "wicked". It's probably fine for street use.

The frame should have been replaced not welded.

By the way, you'd be surprised how many cars have been repaired with no history on carfax. That is the reason every GT purchase should get a PPI.

Race cars are immune from the stigma of a repair. Original Cobras included. That beautiful Jag original that got wrecked at the vintage race a few weeks ago will be repaired too with no stigma attached. But most modern era cars that have a carfax blemish (GTs included) will trade for less than an unrepaired car. Salvage cars are penalized even more That's just the way it is.

I keep waiting for the video of them bouncing the front wheels off the ground. The diffusers probably wouldn't survive though.
__________________
Cheers,
Tony
CSX4005LA
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 11-02-2015, 02:57 PM
Bernica's Avatar
Senior CC Premier Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: SoCal, CA
Cobra Make & Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
Posts: 3,574
Default

I watched it and must say that I cringed when they started welding up the frame!

My gut kept telling me that the car needed to be at a different place that was familiar with repairing Ford GT's. I'm sure are plenty because they get wrecked all the time.

But...I guess it makes for good TV to the masses.
__________________
All that's stopping you now Son, is blind-raging fear.......
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 11-02-2015, 04:09 PM
twobjshelbys's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Cobra Make & Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
Posts: 5,618
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bernica View Post
I watched it and must say that I cringed when they started welding up the frame!

My gut kept telling me that the car needed to be at a different place that was familiar with repairing Ford GT's. I'm sure are plenty because they get wrecked all the time.

But...I guess it makes for good TV to the masses.
The guy that sold the car to the Monkeys knows how to repair them. Hinted that there might be some other issues. All the Monkeys cared about was clear title.
__________________
Cheers,
Tony
CSX4005LA
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 11-02-2015, 05:11 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: May 2013
Cobra Make & Engine: SPF 289 Street
Posts: 209
Default

[quote=Bernica;1369996]I watched it and must say that I cringed when they started welding up the frame!

I agree. The frames on FGTs are special alloy, and require appropriate welding technique, equipment and after-weld process. That frame is suspect, and not trustworthy. Apples to zucchini comparison to a mini-van type low tech sheet steel repair. FGT Forum has a detailed thread on the Monkey GT.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:18 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: