Go Back   Club Cobra > Club GT40 Areas (MKI - MKII - MKIII - MKIV) > GT40 Talk
User Name
Password
Club Cobra Home Register FAQ For Sale Calendar Today's Posts Journals

MMG Superformance
Nevada Classics
Keith Craft Racing
Main Menu
Nevada Classics
Nevada Classics
MMG Superformance
Keith Craft Racing
Advertise at CC
Banner Ad Rates
Keith Craft Racing
MMG Superformance
MMG Superformance
November 2024
S M T W T F S
          1 2
3 4 5 6 7 8 9
10 11 12 13 14 15 16
17 18 19 20 21 22 23
24 25 26 27 28 29 30

Kirkham Motorsports

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 06-19-2016, 03:47 PM
Bernica's Avatar
Senior CC Premier Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: SoCal, CA
Cobra Make & Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
Posts: 3,574
Default Congrats to Ford at Le Mans

Congrats to Ford for making quite a statement and taking 1-3-4-9 with the GT's , which may change to 1-2-4-9 since Ferrari blew off the stop and go penalty and went for it. Just like the good old days! Ferrari and Ford both protesting..
It's good to see them back and seeing the committment to win by Ford.

PS; Sorry to be a spoiler if some of you haven't caught up but you had your chance all day!
__________________
All that's stopping you now Son, is blind-raging fear.......
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 06-19-2016, 04:52 PM
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Bay Area (Peninsula), CA
Cobra Make & Engine: ERA 427, 427/487 side-oiler
Posts: 1,248
Default

What is the significance of a class win? It is a big accomplishment?
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 06-19-2016, 05:10 PM
tkb289's Avatar
Senior Club Cobra Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Cobra Make & Engine: ERA FIA 'Street' Build
Posts: 2,127
Default

I would say yes it is a big accomplishment … great effort and result by Ford and the Team. From the 1966 overall 1,2,3 to 2016 class win 1,3,4,9 (or 1,2,4,9) it is impressive. Good for Ford to have the talent and resources to build the car and then win. Did anyone go to the race … if so …any pictures?? Too bad about Toyota, they ran a great race and came so close, but as they say, that’s racing.
__________________
289 FIA --- ERA 2136
Build Log:
http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/era-...build-log.html
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 06-19-2016, 05:19 PM
dallas_'s Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Dallas, tx
Cobra Make & Engine: FFR track car, SL-C track car
Posts: 1,262
Default

yes, impressive showing for Ford.

I wasn't really rooting for Toyota, but that must have been a heartbreaking loss for them. What's the old saying, "to finish first, first you must finish".
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 06-19-2016, 05:36 PM
Bernica's Avatar
Senior CC Premier Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: SoCal, CA
Cobra Make & Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
Posts: 3,574
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by lippy View Post
What is the significance of a class win? It is a big accomplishment?
Yes it is. They are actually running 4 races at the same time. Back in the day it wasn't like today. The first 2 classes (P1 and P2) can literally do circles around the GT's class and in a league of their own. Ford was in the 3rd class of GTE Pro and brought it home against Aston, Porsche and or course Ferrari.

Yes, a heartbreaker for Toyota.

Here's the final lap for those that may have missed it....

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mewpxd0KXZI[/ame]
__________________
All that's stopping you now Son, is blind-raging fear.......
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 06-22-2016, 08:39 PM
MHNCO's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 145
Default

Integrity be damned by Ford. Just not the same as it was in 66.

Political Decisions at Le Mans Could Lead to Sports-Car Explosion

Quote:
Balance of Performance is a high stakes game of poker with every manufacturer having a seat at the table. Every team bluffs, sandbagging during the off-season testing, not showing their cars full potential at the early races of the year. And they try to hide or manipulate data for the various sanctioning bodies. Ford did this better than anyone else leading up to Le Mans. BoP adjustments were made and Ford had a massive advantage compared to the field. And then Le Mans qualifying came. Ford, instead of going just fast enough, say 1.5 seconds faster than it ran during the Le Mans test weekend, went a blistering 4 seconds quicker. It essentially sent a message of “we played all of you.” What it also did was embarrass the WEC technical staff. So that staff adjusted the BoP again the day before the race. But it did so not nearly enough for most of the grid, as the Ford ran a race pace several seconds quicker than Corvette, Porsche, and Aston Martin.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 06-22-2016, 08:45 PM
Bernica's Avatar
Senior CC Premier Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: SoCal, CA
Cobra Make & Engine: CSX #4xxx with CSX 482; David Kee Toploader
Posts: 3,574
Default

Well put that is racing...
__________________
All that's stopping you now Son, is blind-raging fear.......
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 06-22-2016, 08:50 PM
MHNCO's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Jan 2015
Posts: 145
Default

Some would call them sand bagging cheaters but hey if it will help them sell some eco boost pickup trucks it's all good I suppose. That was the point of this entire exercise right?
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old 06-22-2016, 09:26 PM
twobjshelbys's Avatar
CC Member
Visit my Photo Gallery
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Cobra Make & Engine: Shelby CSX4005LA, Roush 427IR
Posts: 5,570
Default

Well, looked like Ford and Ferrari had a pretty good match at the end. So if one was sandbaggin so was the other.

The days of a 10's of laps win in GT class are long gone. The BoP is designed to make it like NASCAR.

I wish they would go back to the bounded box. The FIA rules (I have a copy on my desktop) are very clear. Technically the Ferrari was running on a waiver. As has the Viper since day 1. Technology moves on and the Corvettes are outclassed.

Headhunters are active.


About the other classes: The LMP classes are very close to the performance of Formula 1.

Note that a few of the GTAM teams beat GTPRO teams. That is where the real talent is.
__________________
Cheers,
Tony
CSX4005LA
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:53 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.6.0
The representations expressed are the representations and opinions of the clubcobra.com forum members and do not necessarily reflect the opinions and viewpoints of the site owners, moderators, Shelby American, any other replica manufacturer, Ford Motor Company. This website has been planned and developed by clubcobra.com and its forum members and should not be construed as being endorsed by Ford Motor Company, or Shelby American or any other manufacturer unless expressly noted by that entity. "Cobra" and the Cobra logo are registered trademarks for Ford Motor Co., Inc. clubcobra.com forum members agree not to post any copyrighted material unless the copyrighted material is owned by you. Although we do not and cannot review the messages posted and are not responsible for the content of any of these messages, we reserve the right to delete any message for any reason whatsoever. You remain solely responsible for the content of your messages, and you agree to indemnify and hold us harmless with respect to any claim based upon transmission of your message(s). Thank you for visiting clubcobra.com. For full policy documentation refer to the following link: