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03-30-2014, 06:24 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2008
Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 427 S/C, Twin Paxton 511 FE
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Well, well, well, patrickt.
So the Cobra was running rough.
She idled bad.
Had a tough time 2-3k rpm.
Even cruised a bit off.
So I looked, asked and searched. And she's now purring again.
Anyone want to take a wild guess?
I will NEVER overlook them again. That's for sure.
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03-30-2014, 06:31 PM
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Join Date: May 2001
Location: Florence,
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Cobra Make, Engine: RCR GT 40 & 1966 Fairlane 390 5 speed
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I'm game
Dwight
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03-30-2014, 06:33 PM
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Bartlett,
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Cobra Make, Engine: Everett-Morrison LS1
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Spark plug wires on wrong
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03-30-2014, 06:48 PM
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Location: American Fork,
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Cobra Make, Engine: 66 Cobra
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Air Bleeds?
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"Everything is alive. If you get angry at a vehicle or the trans, it won't fix until you apologize and say you are sorry." "The vehicle always knows what it is doing and what the cause of it's bad feeling is. If you ask it humbly what the problem is, it will tell you. Then you and it will both be happy."
Gil Younger
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03-30-2014, 07:18 PM
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Senior Club Cobra Member
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA FIA 'Street' Build
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wbulk
Air Bleeds?
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Wbulk
I think you are correct ... rodneym ... is this it?
- tkb
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Originally Posted by patrickt
One of the bleeds may be clogged -- very, very, very common. Blow out all eight of them (idle and high speed bleeds). Four on the primary side, four on the secondary side. Put a clear bag over the carb when you blow you cleaner down through them 'cause it will squirt back up in to your eyes as the high speed bleeds are a little smaller than the plastic tube that comes with your carb cleaner. I've written about this many times on here. In fact, you should clean your bleeds every year or so -- it can make a huge difference. This post has easy to follow pics: Holley Carb Woes - DCDoug Pay Attention (Long Post)
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03-30-2014, 07:59 PM
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Partickt hit one out the park?
Larry
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03-30-2014, 10:19 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: KMP 427 S/C, Twin Paxton 511 FE
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03-31-2014, 09:01 AM
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Join Date: Jun 2005
Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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But of course...
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Originally Posted by rodneym
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Yes, that's why Chas calls me "God's Gift to Motorsports."
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03-31-2014, 10:27 AM
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Funny...that's not what he calls you to me.
The write ups were well appreciated, btw.
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03-31-2014, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by rodneym
Funny...that's not what he calls you to me.
The write ups were well appreciated, btw.
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((GROAN))
Why-oh-why did you have to tell that insufferable twit??
Dog pictures, Rube Goldberg 'tools', storage bags, clutch fork pics and legal advice-don't we have enough??
Honestly, in near three decades, I never spritzed the bleeds. I had them on the bench exactly twice to go through them with new gaskets and once to change the squirters. But not because they gave trouble-they always worked perfectly.
Now you've unleashed another whole batch of Sheldon Cooper junk science...
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03-31-2014, 01:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rodneym
Funny...that's not what he calls you to me.
The write ups were well appreciated, btw.
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The main bleeds, as opposed to the idle bleeds, are smaller in diameter, so I have special "thin" straws that fit inside the regular carb cleaner straw so it doesn't blast back up in to your face. It fits down in to the main air bleeds, nice and tight, just like the fat straw does in the idle bleeds. I would post a pic of them, but ol' Chas might get his nose out of joint.... Tell him once again how crappy your car was running before cleaning them, and how great it's running now, and how wonderful you think I am....
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03-31-2014, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by patrickt
Yes, that's why Chas calls me "God's Gift to Motorsports."
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I don't the "GGM" would post pics of his "less than masculine" dog in the passenger seat of his Cobra, as said Cobra sits in the garage. And then claim that he took his dog out for a ride, when there's no evidence to suggest the car left the garage.
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03-31-2014, 02:27 PM
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Location: West Chester,
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #795 427 S/C completed Jan. '14 - '68 FE 427 side oiler
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RodKnock
I don't the "GGM" would post pics of his "less than masculine" dog in the passenger seat of his Cobra, as said Cobra sits in the garage. And then claim that he took his dog out for a ride, when there's no evidence to suggest the car left the garage.
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I was surprised that his car is out of the bag this time of year.
As for this thread, I'll once again pass along advice that I was sternly given when I first started... I'd have to go back and find the post to recall who gave me this advice, but here it is: "Please don't feed the Patrick"
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03-31-2014, 02:36 PM
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Patrick, where do you find a smaller straw, and how does it stay in the larger hole of the carb cleaner nozzle without squirting out at that joint?
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03-31-2014, 03:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ERA Chas
((GROAN))
Why-oh-why did you have to tell that insufferable twit??
Dog pictures, Rube Goldberg 'tools', storage bags, clutch fork pics and legal advice-don't we have enough??
Honestly, in near three decades, I never spritzed the bleeds. I had them on the bench exactly twice to go through them with new gaskets and once to change the squirters. But not because they gave trouble-they always worked perfectly.
Now you've unleashed another whole batch of Sheldon Cooper junk science...
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I've read here and elsewhere that the ethanol is attacking the old school Holleys. My "carbs from another mother" (aluminum), didn't develope this issue even after thousands of miles. The 660s did on the Paxton motor did. At this point I can't remember if it was the idle or main bleeds (think it was the idle bleeds), but 3 were blackened, the rest clean as can be. At any rate, it worked and I'm very happy.
BTW, if Patrick's dog winds up in that cocoon, we'll knw you were in town.
Besides, it was getting boring around here.
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03-31-2014, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by rodneym
BTW, if Patrick's dog winds up in that cocoon, we'll knw you were in town.
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I doubt that would happen. I'm sure Patrick sets out Ellie's outfits every morning and her table setting at the family dining table for each meal. So there's no way Ellie could go missing for very long.
And yes, it has been a bit boring around here. Maybe everyone is deciding to buy the new C7 Corvette and sell their Cobra's instead.
Or maybe they're just joining Buddyg's new SPF Forum and speaking amongst themselves over there.
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03-31-2014, 04:32 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Quote:
Originally Posted by lippy
Patrick, where do you find a smaller straw, and how does it stay in the larger hole of the carb cleaner nozzle without squirting out at that joint?
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Well, since you asked so politely.... The little red plastic tube that comes with a can of carburetor cleaner fits fine in to the two larger idle air bleeds on the primary side of the carburetor, but it does not fit my other six air bleeds (two high speed on the primary side, two high speed on the secondary side, and two smaller idle bleeds on the secondary side). You can order a tube that fits them off of Amazon and that fits inside the existing tube. I bought a translucent amber miniature polyimide tubing, 15 AWG, 0.0571" ID, 0.0596" OD, 0.00125" wall, and it fits inside the regular red plastic tube perfectly. You insert the smaller tube inside the red tube and then apply some glue, after you've pushed it in a bit, as you're pushing the rest of it up as far as it will go. That way it seals itself inside but there's no glue to clog it up on the inside. Then, after it has dried, just trim off both ends. It then fits in tight on the nozzle of the carb cleaner, and the little extruding end fits perfectly in the smaller air bleeds. I can hear Chas and RodKnock now saying, "well, you gotta hand it to him, that's a stroke of genius." Of course, here's a pic...
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03-31-2014, 05:18 PM
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Pictures of straws. Plus excruciating detail on their proper use. The drama and tension are getting unbearable...........
Thank the Almighty that our H.S. shop teacher is saving us all.........................
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03-31-2014, 05:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ERA Chas
Pictures of straws. Plus excruciating detail on their proper use. The drama and tension are getting unbearable...........
Thank the Almighty that our H.S. shop teacher is saving us all.........................
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Had you been thinking, you would have come up with a clever "straw man" quip....
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03-31-2014, 06:01 PM
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'Thinking', and 'you' do not belong in the same sentence.
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