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07-04-2011, 02:10 PM
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Cobra Make, Engine: ERA #732, 428FE (447 CID), TKO600, Solid Flat Tappet Cam, Tons of Aluminum
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Originally Posted by Rick Parker
When you are installing it, if you get the MSD OEM unit, they caution you as to the correct magnet orientation. Get it wrong and you will open another can of worms. Do NOT crack it either. Be careful of the wires being connected properly, it it easy to do it wrong  . |
OK, in other words, "Don't put it in backwards, don't wire it up the wrong way, and don't break it when you're screwing it in." |
07-04-2011, 02:16 PM
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All of which can be done easily if you are unaware of the consequences.
Right Patrick??
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07-04-2011, 02:17 PM
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All of which can be done easily if you are unaware of the consequences.
Right Patrick??
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Yes, that is true.  |
07-04-2011, 02:29 PM
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One more thing, if you do not ha a readily available source for OEM MSD parts, the same pickup is used for mid 70's Fords although the pickup is riveted to a base plate it can easily be removed, wire colorings are the same but the connectors would need to be soldered on from the take out unit. The magnets ARE brittle be careful whether you do the above or use MSD's part. I have both T shirts and felt silly after having worn them
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07-04-2011, 02:50 PM
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Ok ... you guys have me scared now! LOL looks like 2 nuts to remove and the whole thing comes out. Already made a drawing of the plug and which side is which for the wires. I just put the dash back in, the steering I'll do tomorrow morning. Another question. I have very carefully taken the rotor out noting the orientation, but I don't see anything that puts it back right, automatically. Last time I changed a rotor it had a key slot on the shaft so you couldn't screw it up. I do notice that I have one blue spring and one natural on the top thingy, blue is to the right if I can read MSD on the rotor, but that's all I see.
Any tricks to installing the mag. pick? looks like mine has some glue between it and the edge of the distributer. haven't removed it until i get the new one so I can match exactly. I'll try Pep Boys in the a.m. Thanks, Murray
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07-04-2011, 03:05 PM
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Any tricks to installing the mag. pick? looks like mine has some glue between it and the edge of the distributer. haven't removed it until i get the new one so I can match exactly. I'll try Pep Boys in the a.m. Thanks, Murray
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You have to use some silicone goo. And you're only allowed to read these installation instructions after you've broken the first one. http://www.msdignition.com/uploadedF...structions.pdf |
07-04-2011, 03:08 PM
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WTF are instructions? Now you're just screwing with me making up words!!!!
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07-04-2011, 03:11 PM
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Looks easy enough... I'll buy two!
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07-04-2011, 03:31 PM
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The rotor has a small round post and a square one, 180 degrees apart to provide correct fitament. The corresponding holes are near the posts that anchor the before mentioned springs. Put a dab of dielectric grease on the center carbon post in the cap, see if it transfers to the spring blade on the rotor when the cap is fit, if not bend the blade slightly until grease does transfer indicating positive contact.
This entire operation is best done with the distributor out of the engine and mounted carefully in a vise. Be sure to mark or orient the location of the rotor and reinstall in exact same location. The replacement is somewhat tedious and would be very difficult with the distributor in the engine.
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Pat and Rick.. thank you so much. No local parts so ordered from Summit and got them this morning. When I removed the old one I found out just how brittle those magnets are. Scraped out all the old silicone and cleaned everything up. I managed to get a hex key into the bolt heads without taking out the distributor, but what a beach of a time. Installed the new pickup and made sure I had a good gap, about .026, and snugged everything down. Looking at the bottom of the rotor I saw the round and square pegs, so thank you Rick. Damn glasses are a must now I guess, and I'm being much more patient with this darn learning curve of every new project or task. Connected wires, crossed my fingers and turned the key. WHAT A GREAT SOUND!!!!!!! IT"S ALIVE!!!!! sounding smoother than before and fired right up.
I'll reinstall the steering column in a few and tuck all the wires back up under the dash. Looks like I might just make a local show this weekend. My thanks again and it's guys like you that make this site work so well. Peter says hi Pat and he wouldn't give up any info on the wife's slabside. Murray
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07-06-2011, 04:18 PM
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Just sharing the love. The learning curve is sometimes steep. File away for next time or share with a friend.
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07-06-2011, 07:32 PM
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Did you do this:
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Put a dab of dielectric grease on the center carbon post in the cap, see if it transfers to the spring blade on the rotor when the cap is fit, if not bend the blade slightly until grease does transfer indicating positive contact.
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no small matter........
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07-06-2011, 07:41 PM
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While you have the tube of grease in your hand, use it on the terminals, boots, and wires, and then grab your drill and put holes in the cap, then read this thread http://www.clubcobra.com/forums/fe-t...on-t-like.html Ignore anybody that tells you that putting dielectric grease on your connections will act as an insulator and keep it from working. |
07-07-2011, 05:07 PM
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cleaned out the distributor and I had found that thread and read it, and I was glad it wasn't just my dist. that was full of god knows what. lubed everything and it runs great. today I put the column back and tucked all the wires back up underneath. rain tomorrow so drive it on sat. and sun. again thank you for all the help with this learning curve. I'm going to try to keep it running for the summer and then do a winter tear down and rebuild to learn more about it and see what wears and moves and shakes. every mile makes me more comfortable driving it and more relaxed with the nature of the beast. Nothing nice about a cobra? Only thing nice about it is the sheet eating grin it puts on your face when you drop your right foot!! thanks
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